Graywolf update. Not good for TT. Its time for TT to speak up and stop trying to out me. Its time for @TrueTerpenes to answer GWs questions and my point about them not issusing a recall.
I think this shows that TT should never be allowed back in the Good life gang no matter what. They dont care about their customers and just lie on them (me) and to them non stop.
when i have time I will write up my plans for following G.O. Joes directions for testing without fancy equpment. I really look forward ot what @Demontrich is going to get back form the lab @MagisterChemist recommended to him.
As time and pages have gone by, a quick recap and then an update:
My lab’s analysis showed TT Viscosity not to be a terpene, including the triterpeneoid Sqalane. It was also not Triethyl citrate, which is not a terpene, but an ester of citric acid.
TT Viscosity GC profile didn’t match the profiles of the two most common mineral oils used in food and perfumery, though there are others which we didn’t have samples of to compare.
That scan is posted below, with the mineral oil peak on the left and Viscosity on the right:
Our lab noted, that its GC profile was consistent with a mixture of heavy hydrocarbons , but declined to take a formal stand without more tests to determine the non-volatiles, and suggested an HPLC/MC.
The HPLC/MS reverse engineering bid was $31K, so I contacted a doctor of molecular biology and asked him for his assistance in simply identifying whether the mixture was plant or petroleum based. He asked for:
“A couple more mass spectra at different locations on both the broad peaks would make it easier to know more. A NIST library search on those different parts of peaks would also be helpful if possible.”
Soooo we did and the other dirty peectures are the two peak and the NIST scans. After reviewing those extra scans and NIST library search, our doctor of molecular biologists had the following to say about the probable identity of True Terpenes Viscosity sample that we tested for him:
“To me this looks like heavy hydrocarbon preparation.”
That is contrary to the label, which says, “Viscosity Extract Liquifier is a natural and organic blend of odorless and flavorless terpenes. It does not contain PG, VG, PEG, MCT, Coconut oil, or any other non-terpene ingredient.”
As it is human nature to fill in blank information spots with our best uneducated guesses, may I request that True Terpene’s designated representative please answer the following questions to forestall that guessing??
1.0 What have you done to investigate this disparity?
2.0 What did you find as the cause?
3.0 What have you done to correct the problem?
4.0 Have you issued a recall?
5.0 Have you offered to accept returns and issue refunds?
Kudos and accolades to EN the tenacious whistle blower, and to the selfless analytical lab providing their services pro bono, as well as our doctorial professional doing the same (ya’ll know who you are).
