yea they are melting bad right now, the sugar is all gone and saturated . I’m just gonna keep them out longer . gotta save these babies. rather not have to eat all 200 by myself lmao
i’m gonna make some proper batches with more flavors in the next couple days here. gonna try reducing water and adding a lil bit more gelatin.
Dissolve them into blue gatorade or something - they aren’t going to dry out.
any tips for my recipe. this is what i’m working with for 200 gummies .
30g gelatin
2.5g citric acid
85.5g corn syrup
1/3rd cup water
1/2 cup sugar
1ml
3.5distillate
1 pack jolly rancher jello (79g)
20cc Propeleyne Glycol
That’s a high ratio of PG. Why so much?
I have never done jello gummies - I do mine from scratch. If you break down your SOP, I may be able to help. You also said you forgot a sugar on this run? Did you forget anything else? What temp did you cook sugar / corn syrup to?
Total %s on sugar portion / gelatin portion / acid portion would help.
i think that’s where I goofed. I added too much PG and didn’t cook down the sugar and corn syrup separately .
Did you try the recipe in this thread? Works great for me I’ve made so many perfect batches of gummies since I found this thread.
Thanks a lot for that, i’m gonna make a bunch on my next day off and take all the tips into consideration . I’m very thankful to have a board of pros to help me out.
the first batch is still drying out , on day 2 here they look shiny still but they are slowly drying. Sadly they are most likely not gonna be used or maybe be sold as b-stock to a friend as I don’t want to compromise the rest of the properly made gummies
I just came across a reason to use this stuff in a gummy. It apparently will create crosslinks that won’t melt like gelatin normally would when heated. So I guess to re-enforce the gelatin-lattice. Don’t have this issue but perhaps make a more shippable candy.
Sorry to rehash but i’m still confused, if mixing raw potassium sorbate in, is 1/2 tsp per gallon still the consensus? Has anyone used less with success (6+ months of no mold)?
Ideally want to be as safe to consume as possible, and would like to use least amount of PS I can while still keeping some level of reasonable shelf-life. Thank you for any help.
I use about 0.1g potassium sorbate per kilo of batch. Haven’t had them out for 6 months, usually eat them within 3-4, but they’ve held out in a jar at room temp so far for that long.
A big thanks to this thread for a successful 1st batch. I made 2 test batches before adding THC.
The question I have is to roughly calculate dosing - I have read a lot (maybe too much) but confirmation or correction would be appreciated
Background: - personal use, just getting started - but I am interested in making high-quality gummies.
Equipment: Ardent FX, Source Turbo, TCheck, Buchner Filtration, High-Quality Silicone molds
I am not doing enough quantity to get much more sophisticated than this. Who knows what the Future holds
Biomass - 21g THC (raw weight)
Tested 21.7% THC using TCheck (Orange Kush - Flower)
Flower)
Everclear for QWET process - freezer only
3x soak and filtered with same biomass, reduced in Source
By calculation
21g * 1000mg = 21,000mg Biomass
@21.7% = 21,000*.217=4,557mg THC Available
Process Efficiency 60% - 4,557 *.60 = 2,734mg
Process Efficiency 85% - 4,557 *.85 = 3,873mg
Using the TCheck:
I tested the reduced distillate combined and it was approximately 6mg/ml * 90ml = 540mg
I made 1 batch of gummies and weighed all final material = 720g
By TCheck testing that is .75mg/g
By Calculation, it could be 3.7 - 5.3 mg/g
By licking the spoon after making - TCheck values are way low!!! LOL
My personal experience, the TCheck is crap (I knew it might be) but I think it could be ok for measuring flower.
Based on the effects of the gummy I would estimate that 4mg/g seems to be correct. This would also say that I am about 65% effective in the QWET process. I was happy with the result, about a 30min time to kick in, good texture and taste, seems to be about 4mg/g or 10-12mg per 3.5ml mold cavity.
Does this dosing seem reasonable without testing? Since this is personal use and for friends, I just want to have a guide for dosing and I wanted to bounce this off people with more experience than myself.
Thanks
You’re never going to really know the exact dosage without knowing the potency of your starting materiel exactly as well. Just give people a rough range and tell em to be careful 
I tried this recipe and it worked well. The next time the customer requested 100 mg per gummy 
since I was adding a lot more distillate, I also used more MCT oil and infused prior to mixing into gummy mix at the final step. It appears one of the oils or both are spreading out because I can see a small goldish layer / bubbles. Mixing temp is just over 140F. Any ideas?
looks like you’ve got a decent handle on the math.
3x wash of the same biomass with enough ethanol to cover the biomass (~4l/kg) should give near complete extraction.
if you wanted to be conservative you might use 95% extraction efficiency, but you really should be approaching 99% with 3 washes.
how did you decarb?
while it is true that you “distilled” the ethanol off your concentrate, calling your concentrate “distillate” is incorrect. that moniker belongs to the portion of your boiling flask that was vaporized and re-condensed…which your concentrate did not do.
“distillate” around here is used specifically to refer to cannabinoid concentrates that have actually been moved from flask A to flask B via evaporation/condensation.
“solvent recovery” (or “removal” if blown to atmosphere rather than re-condensed) is the preferred description for the reduction you performed in your Source.
21g x 1000mg/g => 21,000mg biomass (units make the math…)
21000mg @21.7% THC => 4557mg of available THC (but 18% is probably a more reasonable potency unless you used all top shelf buds).
@18% THC, and 95% efficiency. I get 3591mg
with 3590mg in 720g you should be right at 5mg/g…but that isn’t the end point for dosage calculation.
you still need the weight of each gummy.
eg a 10g gummy puts you at 50mg/candy. a 2g gummy at 10mg. using molds so each gummy is approximately the same weight is important here. at least if you’re hoping for consistent dosing (I see you get that. pretend I wrote it for the next guy 
).
I suspect your bioassay based “potency test” points to incomplete decarb rather than incomplete extraction…but the only way to really know would be to get them tested by someone with a GC or HPLC.
most folks have a fairly narrow range in which they find the experience enjoyable. 50% low and many won’t/will barely notice the effects. at 2x their preferred dose, many will NOT enjoy the ride.
this was data I deliberately gathered from my dedicated bioassay team once upon a time. my “preferred” dose used to be about 100mg, it seems to have dropped to ~75mg these days.
I’ve run into folks who can get wasted for 24+hrs on 0.1mg THC, even at 20:1 CBD/THC and others that 500mg THC doesn’t phase…
Thanks for the detailed reply - a lot of good information here.
I use the Ardent FX
The new molds I have are 3.5ml and approximately 4g each. I have been weighing each batch once completed the data.
In my last batch, each 4g gummies had a calculated potency of 15mg.
So far have been only using top-shelf bud - it’s just what is mostly available.
on the input flower?
or the finished “oil”?
I’m not a huge fan of decarbing flower before extraction, although “bone dry” flower will extract less green at a given ethanol temp that “cured” flower will.
I personally wouldn’t trust the FX to get it right, but I’ve got no experience with the device.
I prefer to decarb my concentrate where I can observe (or at least monitor) the evolution of CO2…I’ve had BHO’s that took 6-7hrs to decarb at 100C (fresh frozen, operator didn’t understand their molsieves yet, probably had a fair amount of water in there), and have seen ethanol based crude that (apparently) took DAYS… (we never did figure out why).
I suspect your next move would to get a 3rd party test on them. @Killa12345 might bite…
Hey I’m melting down albanese gummy’s and making some gummy’s do I have to mix anything else in order to make sure it doesn’t mold ?
Dude, trying to get some small scale edible production going. I am not sure how to PM here but feel free to reach out to me as I’m interesting in trying out your gummies and potentially licensing that recipe.
Does anyone Use Certicoat 85 to coat their gummies, so the don’t stick together? If so how are you coating them? I just received a sample bottle and had some gummies i had just made so I applied by hand just a little bit but I feel that was too much even though it was a very small amount. the gummies aren’t sticking together so that is a plus. But i can feel it on my fingers and mouth when eating them, which is a huge turn off.
