Help on decarb diamond

[Kingofthekush420]

@globtek33

O so in other words no longer cbd and a different compound due to oxidization

Cbd quinone is a fucking cannabinoid…

You said

@globtek33

Just to be clear all cannabinoids are clear or translucent at their purest form

Youre wrong obviously lol

[globtek33]

How is a pigment a cannabinoid?

[globtek33]

I will admit my statement of all cannabinoids are clear if you can tell me how a pigment can be a cannabinoid. Though you have to also admit that d9thc is clear at ita purest form and the oxidization is in fact another cannabinoid and not d9thc any longer

[Kingofthekush420]

@globtek33

How is a pigment a cannabinoid?

Because they arent a pigment theyre a class of organic compounds derived from a aromatic ring which cannabinoids have…

"quinones are a class of organic compounds that are formally "derived from aromatic compounds [such as benzene or naphthalene] by conversion of an even number of –CH= groups into –C(=O)– groups with any necessary rearrangement of double bonds, resulting in “a fully conjugated cyclic dione structure”

This is from wikipedia

[Kingofthekush420]

@globtek33

Though you have to also admit that d9thc is clear at ita purest form and the oxidization is in fact another cannabinoid and not d9thc any longer

@Kingofthekush420

As long as theyre not oxidized which happens during the process of growing the plants themselves. This is why distillate is yellow unless color remediated

I literally said this already but what you said also still doesn’t hold true because you can have clear cannabinoids that arent 100% pure…

[globtek33]

This claims its a pigment

Also just because its not an isolate and clear doesn’t mean another cannabinoid isnt present to be a total 1000mg. My statment of 1000mg of d9thc being clear is in fact true.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/quinone#:~:text=Quinones%20are%20ubiquitous%20biological%20pigments,vitamins%20(phylloquinone)%20are%20naphthoquinones.

[ZizzleB]

@globtek33

oxidization is in fact another cannabinoid and not d9thc any longer

see I did not know this. hence, my argument.
so, if this is true (which I assume it is), you’re right. my b.

[Kingofthekush420]

Technically its a functional group…

Just like an alcohol

Britannica classifies it as a class of compound… which is what it is and why you can have thc quinone

Its the same way that cannabinoids are also alcohols because they have a certain functional group

Doesnt really matter either way youre arguing menatics at this point to try and prove something youre wrong about

@globtek33

Also just because its not an isolate and clear doesn’t mean another cannabinoid isnt present to be a total 1000mg. My statment of 1000mg of d9thc being clear is in fact true.

Explain how my 99.5% pure d8 thc is clear then and its not pure?

[WhereAreTheStones]

[globtek33]

I would assume its because another clear cannabinoid is present

[Kingofthekush420]

@ZizzleB

see I did not know this. hence, my argument.
so, if this is true (which I assume it is), you’re right. my b.

Actually you were correct because he originally said

@globtek33

Just to be clear all cannabinoids are clear or translucent at their purest form even d9 thc

And obviously hes wrong, trying to classify cannabinoids quinones as pigments definitely doesnt work its still a cannabinoid. He found 1 source calling it a pigment when there’s 100s calling it a functional group / class of compound

[Kingofthekush420]

@globtek33

I would assume its because another clear cannabinoid is present

Or maybe the impurties dont refact light so theyre colorless

So if i mix colorless terpenes and colorless cannabinoids together they wont be clear then because the cannabinoids arent pure?

[globtek33]

I claimed i was wrong if we are actually counting quinones to be cannabinoids, (about all cannabinoids being clear)but everything else i stated is fact. D9thc is clear and oxidzation creates a new compound.

Yes if you mix pure cannabinoids and clear terps together with no reactions or oxidization occuring it will remain clear

[ZizzleB]

Not gonna lie, I was talking about D9 specifically.

But the point remains that colorless does not necessarily mean more pure.

[moronnabis]

KOK: can you please reference the paper where Mechoulam demonstrates the isolation of clear d9THC and demonstrates its optical absorption properties…?

Thanks, I’d like to read the details. Does this mean d9-THCQ is yellow?

there is a lot of jumping back and forth between d9THC and CBD here …I think each should be kept separate; it only adds a bit of confusion.

Question for those who do claim to have colorless d9THC:
What is the shelf life of that product? How long before it turn pale yellow. Just curious?

Thanks

[Kingofthekush420]

@moronnabis

KOK: can you please reference the paper where Mechoulam demonstrates the isolation of clear d9THC and demonstrates its optical absorption properties…?

I do not know which paper he does this in, maybe @globtek33 does

@moronnabis

Thanks, I’d like to read the details. Does this mean d9-THCQ is yellow?

I think its red personally which is why d9 oxidizes red and it would explain the red ring of death that forms on top of distillate which has been proven to be quinone

@moronnabis

Question for those who do claim to have colorless d9THC:
What is the shelf life of that product? How long before it turn pale yellow. Just curious?

Depends on storage conditions if you keep it inert it wont change color if you let oxygen get in the top will oxidize just like normal distillate and will go from

@Kingofthekush420

clear to yellow to orange to red based on how much oxidation takes place

Itll only do it on the top layer though it wont do it throughout the whole liter unless you mix it around

[cyclopath]

@Kingofthekush420

Itll only do it on the top layer though it wont do it throughout the whole liter unless you mix it around

Seem to recall vivid example posted around here that was best explained by O2 introduced in the act of stiring…but “why is my shit changing color” has come up enough I’m not going digging.

Edit: %^^%*. Hit it in one…

Vape formulation "mushrooming"?

hey all, we got some OOH disty in, it tested pretty high but after formulating this keeps happening. any ideas why or how to fix it? [DISTY]

[Kingofthekush420]

They probably heated that in a microwave

My converted d9 does that when i heat it

Heres a picture of it

Heres d8 that’s just sat in a media bottle for a year

Let me see if i can find the year and a half old d8 thats been vacuum sealed in mason jars, you can see there minimal oxidation on the top

I guess i didnt post it in the microwave distillate thread i thought i did

[XDinF4200jail]

What a waste of a good Friday! Everyone is right. I’m the only one wrong. There, problem solved. XD lab testing sucks is the real lesson.

[TheWillBilly]

Whenever something goes wrong me or Joe just say it was your fault laugh and move on