I read that already, 3 times. Nowhere does it state at what temp I bake the bentonite or how long.
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I’m in the process of reading all that. I’ve read a bunch of it though, and all the reading is what created more questions. And then you all just point me back to the same shit I’ve already read. Which didn’t answer my questions in the first place.
google says 800c but that just seems unsafe
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Can we drop a spoon 
for the bentonite question of baking it.
Cause now that has me wondering what the fuck is up with that as well.
mentions bad rubber smell when not baking bentonite. So what’s the general consensus on the baking temp?
Come on man. I literally was searching for hours trying to find the bake temp. How is that a spoon? If the info is buried under a thousand posts doing a search isn’t going to help that much now is it? Unless you want to spend all day searching and reading, which I do not have the time to do. And I doubt anyone else has the time to do either.
I read this thread too, this is the thread that had me wondering if all the filter medias change the taste of the end product.
I found this but this isn’t the same bentonite.
Fair enough.
To answer that, my search query was “@Photon_noir bake” which lead me to this thread started by one of our dearly departed…
Because I’m pretty sure @Photon_noir gives explicit process instructions somewhere on baking of the magic dirt.
Possibly the opaline silica thread.
My response would be 150C o/n under vac. I think we have our oven all the way up. Reasonably sure we’re not baking anything but our molsieves these days.
Did you catch what the Bentonite is doing? (Catching…)
Does is need to be baked for that purpose? (Nope)
I have performed this trick many times without baking the T5, and it worked as expected each and every time. Not saying it isn’t better to have the last bit of moisture removed, but it is not necessary for performing it at the scale and frequency you will be doing this. I could filter nealry 100 gallons of tincture without seeing dimishing returns on the same bed of T5 and AC.
See now how in the hell would I have known to put @photon_noir in the search query? No one would have known that except the people who already knew. And none of those threads really dive into whether AC removes thca or not. It’s looking like since I use .5um duda sheets I don’t really need bento? Since All I’m trying to do is remove color?
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Fuck I don’t have a vac oven. All I got is my regular oven.
I used 0.02um below the media bed, and if you only have a thin layer of AC (1/8-1/4"), there should be no loss of potency. I never experienced any loss, and we tested the tincture before and after filtration.
In my experience, the best color I’ve ever gotten was from fresh frozen flower, bho, I’d imagine the same would apply to ethanol extraction.
Grow it yourself. Freeze/chill the heck outta everything, solvent, all things equipment related and your material. Extract it as cold as you can (-35/40°c is an ideal target but the temperature of a household deep freezer works wonders too) that’s if you want the best color you can get without messing around with remediation or purchasing quality lab equipment… all you really need is quality material to make a quality extract. (If that’s what you want, is that color).
Also, i’d listen to @cyclopath and read what he suggests, he’s helped me learn a lot, very fast too. He knows his stuff and he’s spending his time to help you.
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Uh huh. You expect me to remember the entire thread?
Why do you think I told you how I searched?
So you might have what I would consider the definitive answer…I don’t find it in 60 sec, so you get to look it up, or not. Or maybe you get lucky & @Photon_noir makes it easy and tells us all I’m wrong again?
Why do you think I gave you my numbers?
…because I can’t find anyone else’s numbers for you. Our current oven doesn’t quite get there, I think it’s set a 275F or thereabouts. We’re only baking our molsieves at this point if I’ve been paying attention.
How many of your other questions were answered in that thread?
You’re certain there’s nothing in there you missed?
yep, and I believe we’ve got folks reporting how they do and don’t bake their media that contains data on “regular oven”. Possibly the Opaline silica thread.
We’ve also got “you’re just using it as depth filtration to keep the damn carbon fines (and bentonite fines) out”, so it doesn’t need the wizards water begone incantation that I was trying to point you at. IMO.
as far as @envee’s “listen to @cyclopath”, I’m gonna instead suggest you listen to @Akoyeh, because he spent some time dialing this process in in a commercial setting. I stopped doing Rec market THC EHO round the time @Akoyeh started, as he essentially took over my position (there was one other between us, but I had hired them only because I was told I couldn’t have @Akoyeh on my team).
I have played it a couple of times in a centrifuge. worked well enough that I tried it in a panda. which didn’t work. miserably.
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valid question. solid “maybe” imo.
does yours currently taste good?
Yeah I learned a bunch of stuff on what not to do with my trim moving forward (don’t overmill), but I’ve still got 3 lbs of overmilled trim and the resulting dry sifted kief from it and can salvage it if I can get the green out.
And I’m aware that cyclo knows his stuff and is spending time to help me. I’m very appreciative believe me. I’ve seen how some of you guys acted towards other people that asked questions here in the past. Nobody has to answer my questions, I know.
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Im probably not doing this at near the size you are. I’ve got 3 pounds of overmilled trim and the kief from it to do this to, and after that I won’t be working with more than 1 liter of wash at a time.
Also a dumb question, but how are you guys quoting specific lines of text for replies?
If it’s overmilled it’ll be FULL of plant yuckies and undesirables, nothing can really be done about that… the solution for fixing that is more work than it’s worth in my opinion but that’s only my opinion @Akoyeh might have a “quick fix” solution but I’d get what you get can and move on, don’t become fixated on the color.
Edit:
Highlight the text as if you are going to copy, a square window displaying the word “Quote” comes up. Click it/press it, it’ll “quote” the highlighted/selected text and open a window to respond to said quote.
I did a little test run of some of the kief from that and it wasn’t bad, just very green. I imagine the trim won’t be much different.
Thank you. I was losing my mind trying to figure out how to do this.
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