Decarbing CBD......crude?

[EvinAtEmerald]

This is my first post, I apologize if it is not in the correct category.

My question is regarding decarbing CBD. I am finding a lot of information regarding decarbing flower, I’m wondering about methods of decarbing crude. (Reactor…or even using a heated water bath?) what methods are currently being used?

[cyclopath]

Welcome.

https://future4200.com/search?decarb

Should get you started.

Edit: typoed the above. I blame my phone.

Try Search results for 'Decarb' - Future4200

[EvinAtEmerald]

If I had found any information that pertained to my question I would not have posted it.

[ky_cbd]

I use a hot plate and magnetic stirrer. I put the crude in a borosillicate beaker and set the hotplate to 90 C. Turn the spinbar on and adjust the speed as the bubbles start to form. You want to let the crude get to your desired decarb temp and it takes about 2 or 3 hours to fully decarb. I do it at 90 C because I also purge the solvents at this step and 90 C is a temp i found good to achieve this. I usually have about 1% degradation to some other cannabinoid CBC mostly. Let it all cook until no more bubbles form and you can always kick up the temp by a degree or two and turn the stir bar up to make sure you fully de-carbed. If your worried about degradation do this process at a little lower temp and under vacuum.

Edit: Only de-carb a maximum of half of your total vessels volume (2500 ml crude in a 5000 ml vessel) That shit will expand trust me…

[cannabuilder]

Crude to distillate

What temperature and pressure do you run your roto at for solvent recovery and then decarb? I’m just curious. I turned it up to supply additional heat transfer during recovery. I’m not sure if decarb occurs under vacuum or more specifically without O2. Doing additional steps in the rotovap makes a lot of sense to me. Rotos can’t go to high vacuum usually but they can go to higher temps if you use oil instead of distilled water in the bath. There’s a lot to consider with one’s choice of oil thoug…

Oil is bumping

You don’t need a special unit to decarb oil you intend to distill. The way I do it is in the flask(s). Method one: Put raw THCa and stuff into boiling flask. Flask goes into mantle. I stack two kugelrohr style bulbs verticle onto that. Onto the top kugelrohr I insert a ¼ barb fitting glass adapter with a glass frit. Then I pull vacuum deep as it will go. Then heating mantle on at about 100C on the mantle. Oil slowly pukes then drains back into flask helped a bit by warming the bulbs with a torc…

BHO as Starting crude

If you just dissolve in EtOH then evaporate, final consistency should be almost identical to starting material. In the case of BHO as crude for distillation, the recommended protocol is to bring up in Ethanol at about 10:1 and throw it in the freezer to ppt the fats and waxes. filter or centrifuge those out, then evaporate/recover ethanol. That WILL change the consistency. Usually towards a slightly more viscous product. The next step is to decarboxylate. which can be done at the same time…

General safety in a work area/lab

I decarb at 200F and then let material cool to 150F before it enters the BF and have not had any problems.

Turning Black iso hash into distillate

Btw, i would decarb the kief in a crockpot before extraction, so you can avoid it in the oil step. It will make things easier.

Thin Film MS distillate machine parameters

I am using a Thin Film Molecular separator. I’m only a little over a year into extraction and I am doing my best to learn and self teach as I go. I use a short path for terpine strip and decarb all my oil before it goes into the thin film. I am only achieving low 80s for my THC %. Does anyone have any suggested parameters to run this machine at to achieve higher potency. Im running my feed speed first pass 225 and second pass 125 with my evaporator at 151.2 and 141.2 degrees C, and my residue at…

Decarbing gone wild

I can’t for the life of me decarb without getting caramelization and burnt material. I’ve used hotplates, waterbaths and an overhead stirrer. I had best results with the water bath, but it took forever. I also seem to lose way more than i expected, more than a third when I’m done. Staying at 115c. Last batch started with a bit more than 2.5 liters ended with 1.75 liters. Took 7 hours with magstirrer, stirred with the overhead, still caramelized the edges.

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[Beaker]

Forgive me, but respectfully this is a peer pressure moment.

Folks here will help you or you can bite the hand that helps. Please respect that other human beings are on the other end of your posts. We all know what frustration is but for goodness sake go outside and kick a policeman in the shins if you need to vent, eh? Folks here then who do want to help you figure this out will be on your side generally, me included. Not that I hate Leo but I do know that Leo has picked sides in this industry and so have I. I assume you have too in the matter.

We are on the same side here and I would ask you respect my comrades who genuinely want to assist and ask nothing in return.

[Beaker]

@cannabuilder

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[cyclopath]

Try this one. I typo’ed

https://future4200.com/search?q=Decarb

When you’ve read those, and seen nothing relevant, answer the following if you still wanna play.

Where are you getting your crude (extraction methodology)?

Where are you going with it?

How much you got?

[Soulboy]

I too am curious about this. I’ve searched everything on the site and was just wondering if anybody had any actual data re: CBD decarboxylation. Is it that different from the temperatures of THC? I notice there is a lot of anecdotal info on the web, citing the higher boiling point of cbd vs thc, but are they even correlated?

For instance, in the comment thread of this article:

https://catscientific.com/decarboxylating-cannabis/

Does anybody have any data to verify this?

Edit: This is for an ethanol extraction of bucked cbd flower done at freezer temps, filtered through 25 microns, then roto’d and purging/decarbing on the CAT MCS 78. RSO is the goal here.

[GandalfTheGreen]

You can decarb CBDA in roughly the same conditions as THCA. Last I checked the temperature recommended was just a few degrees higher, but otherwise the process is basically the same.