Yeah I’ll probably build one next year when COVID is over and I can go to trade shows again.
My company are EXPERTS at automation and I’ve sketched up a cls or 2 in my time so I think we gonna be putting out a pretty sweet system.
But these things aren’t cheap when put together correctly so we will probably only be selling to big fish. No sense in automation on a 5lb garage unit.
At least you know with that U and RT3 stamp that there’s an insurance company involved if the vessel were to fail. Unless they totally just lied and stamped it without an AI. It’s always worth getting the design docs from Natnl Board to check if you have doubts.
As far as I’m concerned, an ASME stamp is an ASME stamp. As long as you verify it wasn’t faked, the country of origin shouldn’t be a concern.
Don’t care about insurance if I’m dead because fake Chinese stainless failed. As has happened (failures, unsure of injury/deaths) multiple times with bzb gear.
Can you find record of Shanghai L&H Stainless Equipment Co., Ltd. registered with ASME? The ASME CA Connect system’s database probably doesn’t have China entered as it’s not in the drop-down list.
There are definitely legit shops in China, especially since some of the big manufacturers have locations overseas (like Westinghouse and Copeland).
What I meant about the AI/insurance company is that there is someone checking their work that has a very vested interest. There are a very limited number of ASME approved inspection agencies and they’re not going to let one of their clients fake documentation.
Edit: it’s under People’s Republic of China but I can’t find L&H. The search is really shitty though it says there are no results unless you narrow it down a lot. Took 3 tries to get my certificate to come up and I know how it is filed lol
I’m running a custom system right now , in a licnesed lab . I have two negative 80 chillers . One is needed for the condensing column for the recovery . Believe me because I’m doing it now . One is dedicated just to the condensing column , the other one cools my entire system and a heat exchanger.
What is the power rating of your “-80” chillers?
Thank you Codeman, how did you find that? I wasn’t using the right search tool for China ASME
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Thank you for the update Sid
20 years in service isn’t too bad
I didn’t see china in the drop down either so for the keyword I just put Shanghai
I also put Shanghai and the tool turned up nothing. Like @SidViscous the search is shitty… not intuitive whatsoever.
Now the other trick if you really don’t trust them is call up NB at get the K1 for that vessel and check it matches the nameplate. I doubt very much that they would fudge it but stranger things have happened
7/10 struck hard. I was more than a few dabs deep trying to use that search, and had lost faith in my ability to spell Shanghai correctly, it turns out on my computer if you copy and paste Shanghai and hit enter it comes up with 0 results. hit spacebar and then backspace, and it works fine and comes up with all the right results. Total operator error. thanks @Codemanmakeshash
Knowing the next step is good- I wouldn’t have known where to go next and appreciate your insight! My concerns have been assuaged. I was able to track down two other tank mfg’s I’d been curious about and they were both on the list.
Also, I mentioned the wrong form; K-1 is for div 3, U-1 would be the correct form. You can find the appropriate forms here: ASME Data Report Forms - ASME
I love this and agree with the second half of your statement! A high hp mid engine car like a LaFerrari or 458 Italia requiring attention to detail to drive is EXACTLY how I picture the Beests!
The type of chillers I use don’t take longer to do what I want than LCO2, they do it faster. The beest wranglers I know have to come in and start icing down their system first thing in the morning, regulating co2 through jackets in order to chill solvent tanks and column and wait for them to come down to temp. It takes some time for heat energy to transfer through 6mm thick stainless, and columns full of solvent.
I start my day by walking in the door, spending two minutes with a hammer and air nozzle breaking and clearing ice off my frosted over system, unbolting clamps, dropping in socks, vacuuming, and clamping. After a pre-flight safety check I’m sending solvent about 15-20 minutes from walking in the door, injecting solvent and recovering non stop without pause until the batch is ready to dispense or I turn the system over to another operator. With the chiller outside the building taking care of all my chilling needs holding my solvent tank, columns, and heat exchanger at -45 I don’t waste a second of my day thinking about solvent temperature or regulation. It’s like a Nissan GT-R you hop in and go with all wheel drive and a direct shift gearbox transmission. There’s not as much of an art to driving one, it’s a zero to hero car. Noobs like me with a few days track experience can destroy amateur to average Porsche turbo or entry level McLaren because it’s so easy to drive. Noobs will inevitably get passed up by a pro driver in a light weight precision driving machine, but there’s still the last 10-20% to eek out for skilled drivers in the easier to drive car.
I think simplicity for all not myself - Equipment designed to be as simple to operate as a MKIVc with each valve correlating so any half experienced operator can walk in and make great product efficiently with minimal training
I joined the site a few days ago and have spent some hours reading and looking around. A few years ago I got really interested in the extraction process and started digging in. Two years ago I purchased what I consider a “beginners” machine (1lb Mini-Icarus) from BVV. I have found the more I learn the more I have to learn and after reading this thread I have learned I am still looking for a sharp object to scratch the surface.
I have zero information to compare this machine to but I have had zero problems with it other than “user error” and I am 100% satisfied with the end results as are all of my patients. My local testing lab tells me that my products are as good as anything around so I have to give that credit to the machine and not my novice ass.
With all that being said… I LOVE THIS SHIT!! 
Better than open blasting.
Daaaang that sounds pretty darn nifty. Never thought about running the chiller 24/7!
How much does it cost to maintain a chiller that large running 24/7 and how often does it need work?
