The evolution of cannabinoid conversions

What is the point in legalizing cannabis?
Its not just so we can all get high i promise.
Its to move forward with it for its medical properties.
This is just the beginning. We can convert it to a multitude of cannabinoids. Which is a good thing. We can now have the possibility of discovering something novel not to get high on but to use for its medical benefits.
These are just the steps taken to get there.

And on the other hand. Whats wrong with the option to buy a $3 gram of converted thc? Thc is thc is thc. Period. Theres alot of people that would rather spend $3 a gram then $10 or $20 or $50… Especially distillate. D9 disty d8 disty cbd converted to d8d9 disty. They all suck the same

And alot of people that dont have the option to even spend $ so a basically free option isnt that bad

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Do you think d8 from thc has the same effect that d8 from cbd has??

Ever notice how d8 from thc can still get you high but d8 from cbd don’t really do shit?

What do you think d9 from cbd is gonna be like? Just saying

I don’t use cannabis for medical treatment unless you talk about that little chip on my shoulder that would be there without cannabis.

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Like d9 from weed lol
Its the same chemical structure. It doesnt matter where it came from. It matters where it ended. Mdma made from sass fucks you up the same as molly made from pmk glydicate.
Your brain is not capable of stopping the effect. Its a chemical. In the same shape as a drug that gets you high= you get high

D8 from d9 gets you noticably higher because theres d9 in it still.
Go eat a gram of d8 from cbd and hmu when you wake up

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I haven’t noticed a difference between thc and CBD derived d8 as far as effect. The amount of d9 that may still be in the thc derived version would sure make a difference though.

I eat grams of d9. A gram of d8 won’t do a thing to me. I’ve grams of cbd derived d8 when I broke my ribs and it didn’t help with shit. Grams. Not 1. Since then. No more d8 or hemp derived products. If it works for you guys. By all means. Go for it.

Interesting considering d8 and d9 both convert to the exact same chemical in your body. 11 hydroxy thc…
Sounds like you got some weak d8.

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Or the mind is a powerful thing and can make you think your high when your really not…

I remember watching people in the 90s eat excedrin and think they were rolling and plain paper and thought they were tripping like they were on acid.

I don’t know what to tell you. I’m just telling you what I felt from observation. I don’t have a vested interest in an converted products. I think the members that are involved in that industry should disclose it like a sponsored post…

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In my head d9 is d9 and d8 is d8.

I call people like that fakers.

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From a chemistry view. I dont even know how to try to reply to that.
So your saying pmk molly is indeed not fucking people up? And d9 from cbd is not d9?
You have your mind made up about this subject clearly so i guess ill just stop…

D9 is d9. D8 is d8. Mdma is mdma. Theres nothing else to it

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No what I’m saying is your mind is a powerful thing. It’s so powerful it can make people eating placebos feel healed.

This isn’t a new scientific phenomenon

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Your mind is powerful. It can also make you feel delsuions of sobriety when your not sober :thinking::wink:

I wonder what we are dealing with in this situation.
This is also not a new phenomenon.

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Ive noticed that when I had an insane tolerance to D9 (grams a day) that D8 wouldnt really affect me as much. But recently ive only been dabbing about a gram of live res a day and when I eat D8 it gets me blasteddddd

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D8 edibles are the only time I’ve been so high i puked.
Walking around the middle section of walmart for like a half hour like a zombie looking for something. I swear i felt like i wasnt even moving. Like i was being pushed around on a dolly.

The only reason it happened is because before that on this forum i heard how “weak” d8 was. Lol so i ate 1500mg. What a mistake.
Everybody that eats my d8 edibles (500mg) eats half or less at a time because they will still be baked with a weed hangover when they wake up.

With that being said d8 smoked is def a different high from d9. Not nearly as in your face. Fully functional regardless of dab size.

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My take on cannabinoid conversion:

It’s no secret that there is a huge surplus of hemp biomass and extracted cannabinoids. I think a lot of hemp farmers and processors did not get the return on investment they were looking for and are looking for anyway to sell their products. Converting CBD into other cannabinoids via reflux is a simple and cheap way to make something novel that may have more market appeal. I believe that this is the reason we have seen a rise in the interest in minor cannabinoids. Simply because they can be made and marketed.

Unfortunately, it seems like no cannabinoid is as popular and valuable as THC. Fortunately, that problem has been solved (for the most part).

Now that the conversion from CBD to THC is possible, all that surplus hemp is going to get converted and slipped into the THC markets (black, gray, white).

How do you feel about this?
Is it ethical?
Is it a safe product to consume?
Should consumers know if their THC is a product of converted hemp?
Is there really any difference between THC from hemp or from cannabis?
Should people with expensive and over- regulated THC licenses be concerned or upset?
Will hemp’s legally exempt status be threatened (shipping and brokering freely across boarders)?

What do you all think??

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Edit: Threads merged above.

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EDIT: Thanks for merging the topics @cyclopath

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I think there should be a means of selling converted THC into the medical and recreational markets. Totally fine with that. This would also be useful for THC separated via chroma remediation.

On the other hand, selling unusual isomers through the hemp market is a terrible idea. That market does not have any age and sale controls like the rec market does, and the consumers tend to be totally uneducated. The “my kid got high from my ‘hemp’ product” headlines write themselves and will bring the whole market into disrepute.

Selling into black market is inevitable but will bring 10x stricter regulations into the industry if it gets scrutinized, such as bringing the entire US hemp production onto some METRC-esque system.

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blind studies here we come where do I sign up to be tester

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Popcorn in hand. Very interesting topic from many angles.

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How do you feel about this?
I feel fine. I was doing this like a year and a half ago. Shhh

Is it ethical?
Why wouldnt it be? Your not selling them spice. Thc is thc. No matter how you look at it. Molecular they are the same from cannabis or hemp coversions.

Is it a safe product to consume? This is unknown. As there are going to be some unknowns from the coversion unless cleaned properly and tested. Too many variables. What may be safe from me might not be safe from the next guy.

Should consumers know if their THC is a product of converted hemp? YES.

Is there really any difference between THC from hemp or from cannabis? No

Should people with expensive and over- regulated THC licenses be concerned or upset? Yes and no. They will most likely just hop on the bandwagon and stop making disty from cannabis sativa. And just hemp conversions. Which is not a bad thing.

Will hemp’s legally exempt status be threatened (shipping and brokering freely across boarders)? Quite possibly. Thats an interesting question. It has been stated that all isomers of cbd are legal. Its a grey area afiak

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