Strains that don't run hot

I have a coa from PSI in Ann Arbor for our candida strain .17% thca 15.7% Cbd. It was one of the first samples I took them, and I have heard bad reports from others about them. Maybe they were padding it for return business. But here it is

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whats their cuttoff levels?

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Here is a second pheno of the candida.

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For thc?

These were untrimmed, but honestly they would pass as smokeable untrimmed.

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specifically yes, but in general

i just messaged them, waiting for a reply. But I would assume it’s <.1% somewhere.

I am posting here in my business name, and you are calling me a liar and a fraud, and I don’t appreciate that…“bro.”

Obviously you are a paid shill for Oregon cbd. Maybe they are a fine company, who knows, but when someone like you endorses them, it does more to muddy their good name than it does to benefit it.

As just happened once above, more real growers will chime in to point out how wrong you are, and then you will attempt more infantile bullying to support your wrongness. You can sing, dance, and call people childish names all you like, but that doesn’t mean you know anything about growing.

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Where’s these 23% Cbd COAs with <.3% total thc?

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You are making claims and not backing them up. Show a legit COA showing under .3% delta 9 and nobody will say your lying.

Ad homiem attacks against @anon1342 don’t change the fact that you are making a claim that isn’t likely to be true, and are providing 0 evidence

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First you say every coa is fake. Then every lab is incompetent. Then you say “where is your coa?” LOL. Get congruent with your conspiracy theories.

I guess this web site is a paid advertisement for Oregon CBD? Anyone who does better than their 14% cbd must be some sort of scammer? I am not even trying to sell anything on here, unlike almost everyone else on the site.

Anyone who thinks 14% is as good as it gets has been conned. Drink that koolaid if you want, but you’re not going to get very far with that line when you talk to actual growers.

Let’s see the proof

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Steve labman may be right or may be wrong but acting like Elliot at his worse makes him irrelevant. For what it’s worth I hope Elliot will try to take some of the edge off for business sake. I expect Oregon CBD Seeds will distance themselves from Labmans kind of attitude.

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More words with 0 evidence. You act surprised people are calling you out.

I have said some COAs are fake. You don’t even have one to back up your claims

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The discussion is mixing two connexe aspects, max cbd content on the one hand, and thc:cbd ratio on the other hand, and I think you are overall getting it wrong.

Dealing with the max content, I believe 23% may be eventually achieved (max I v seen so far was 22%), but not in a outdoor crop (at least with current mainstream strains), only indoor, and that will come with a thc content even hot for swiss law (above 1%).

That is because the thc:cbd ratio is pretty constrained in cbd rich varieties. Here is a chart based on hundreds of data I collected upon my first years of hemp analysis (on samples which I could identify well the origin). I could update it with 3 to 4 times more data now, but I think this diagramm akready outlines the trendd very well.

A 23% cbd flower, natural, would come up with near or more than 1% thc.

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Its true, bad behavior is, just bad. I own that.

Ignoring ridiculous CBD & THC potency claims causes farmers to buy fake seed, crops to get burned, businesses fail. I’ll take the douche badge if it helps a few farmers from getting hurt. I do not spend my time with a selfie stick seeking relevancy. Discourse, even when heated often produces learning.

Also, I have no relationship with OregonCBD. I have bought their gear in the past and would again because the potency, yield, germination and rare incidence of males is highly reliable.

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https://greenerushhempco.com/kush-a1-hemp-flowers/

I have a this and the black chelato both decent cbd content and under 0.3% total thc

I know the smokable market pales in comparison to the overall biomass and extraction side of the biz. However, developing desirable strains for smoking and vaping is still a big deal. I have yet to find too many people who hinge their buying decisions on CBD levels. The question is can plants be grown with sufficient terps to pass the nose test and allow a pleasurable entourage effect. Some 8% bud wouldn’t bother me if so.

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You are obviously a bright guy and have something important you are saying I get that. When you have to yell and stomp your feet to get your point across to some people that is probably not the person you need to influence anyway. I get your message loud and clear if I may paraphrase you, Seth, and Dr. Jebril: The ratio of THC to CBD in hemp is constrained over a relatively narrow range almost fixed but with some minor variation subject to environmental influences and there may be a maximum ceiling to the CBD content. According to Dr. Jebril’s chart high CBD will lead to higher than 0.3% THC. That seems like current science.
However you state that compliant hemp with CBD less than 10% is not economically viable well I would like to take issue with that. That’s business, botany, agriculture, chemistry, and engineering etc. Lots of room for improvement and efficiency there. These challenges are not different than those faced and solved for peanut, corn, and soybean oil. May require rethinking scale of effort but it will be made economically viable by someone. It just might not be the small farmer, producer, or processor I’m afraid. Thank you for this thread.

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Anything is possible with genetics, im sure there are a few farms with clone only hemp varieties that would be outliers on the chart above.

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