Strains that don't run hot

What’s your altitude and limestone content?

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I’ve seen 14% with <.3 from an isolated pheno of Otto II grown indoors.

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Sure, a rare pheno is possible, however bad lab work is also possible and much more likely from a statistical standpoint. Do you have multiple tests you can post of this so called unicorn? I’d love to see any test.

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No sorry, i only seen one COA and it wasn’t my material.

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Sounds like the unicorn I saw. I was so amazed by the rainbow it farted I forgot to get a picture. =)

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Do you have multiple lab tests on this material - or even one?

A local grower claimed he could manipulate THC production with feeding, etc. This included alot of chest pounding and super duper claims. When his finished flower tested at 4-6% CBD and just under .3 everyone laughed. Then promptly put his phone number on ignore.

He’s now busy selling fake beans, and pushing faked up COA’s on dogcrap material. Last year he sold a farmer $150k of beans that failed to launch resulting in total crop failure.

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I have absolutely nothing to gain from claiming to have seen a good COA. just trying to contribute to the conversation. Why do you have a vested interest in shooting down anyone’s claims of high results? It’s not like we’re pimpin seeds.

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I get it, and I find your knowledge and experience valuable. However, seeing a COA and the COA being real are two very different things. I can send you 20 fake COA’s posted on the internet that make similar claims. Problem is, there’s no CBD dominant plant that can finish at 14-16% cbd below .3. Anywhere. In. The. World.

Survey smokable flower markets, they’ll tell you the real story. If such a plant existed, the flower from that strain would be for sale. Repeatedly. Showing those lab results. However, that’s never happened. Ever. Anywhere. In. The World.

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Fair enough.

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Presentation by Larry Smart: Evaluation of Hemp Cultivars in NYS
School of Integrative Plant Science, Cornell University

Larry Smart: George Stack, Craig Carlson, Jacob Toth, Rebecca Wilk, Deanna Gentner
Chris Smart: Ali Cala
Don Viands: Julie Hansen, Jamie Crawford

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Saratoga Springs NY?

yea, near the track

I lived off N. Milton road for 6 months while attending NPTU Ballston Spa.

Your level of ignorance is astounding. It is only exceeded by your obnoxiousness.

Yes I have a lab test. For you to think I would believe a random person off the Internet over an accredited lab certainly shows how highly you think of yourself.

16% isnt really even that high. I have seen 18% cbd material be usda compliant. If I was making this up, I could come up with a better story. The fact that you think something fairly common is a unicorn story points to the extreme level of your own ignorance.

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I haven t seen such me neither.

Do you have several of such lab tests ?

All cbd varieties I have tested fall in a small range of thc:cbd ratios, lest say between 1:20 and 1:32. Below in some rare case (down to 1:15, 1:7 in one unique breed I know, otherwise it gets to the mixed strains). Not higher. Never seen that.

One can even dinstinghuish indoor/outdoor breed and indoor/greenhouse/outdoor crop when looking closer at the numbers.

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Sure, absolutely. And taking that observation a step further, you will find soil quality variance controls cbd percentage with just as much importance as genetics. And soil is tremendously different in different parts of the country.

I hate to shatter people’s worldview on here any further than I have already, but a good friend of mine who reviews coas for a living has told me he has seen wife come in at 23%. Boax comes in at 18% in good soil in my part of the world. I have no reason to doubt someone hit 23%.

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I think it would be an incredibly interesting study to look at soil quality and it’s effects on cannabinoid production. For instance plant-microbe interactions can reduce stress, it seems that biologically active soils will likely produce better results.

@seth what is it that drives other cannabinoid syntheses such as CBC to produce THC? It appears they are very similar, is it directly impacted by what is available to the plant to uptake? I’m assuming the basic chemical makeup of these molecules needs to be constructed by these synthase mechanisms, could they accidentally use an extra carbon in there or make the wrong bond based on what they have available in the soil at that time?

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My 16% t1 was 10-12% for a farm not too far away. They were planting right after flood waters in the river bottom receded. Flooding makes good soil in geological time, but not so much immediately after the flood. It was mucky, and they lost some plants due to pythium rot.

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Yea. And yet, neither you or anyone else can produce a single legit COA to show 14%+ CBD at under .3thc? Why is that?

And exactly zero of any such flower is for sale in the flower market. Hmmm why is that?

You’re not shattering any world view, you’re just perpetrating a myth, like saying you have a friend that rides a unicorn for Santa Clause. You’re either a scam or you really love Santa. I get it, so does my 5y/o daughter.

You’re also contradicting OregonCBD’s position. Essentially saying they’re wrong. They have a full genetics lab, 1 million sq ft of greenhouse, a Billion $ of sales. But, your argument is, your friend has a COA

Bru? Really?

So why should anyone believe you? When you repeat the same santa clause unicorn crap over and over but can’t produce a single coa or material to back it up? I’ve backed up my claims by linking you to the flower market IRL with 50-80 COA’s listed, tweedlefarm.com and the worlds largest legitimate seed breeder. oregoncbdseeds.com

The only way to hit the fake numbers you claim is spraying crap material with distillate. You can’t grow it in the real world.

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or get a lab to set their LOQs to absurd levels

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