SPD - Last few steps before finish line - help!

Thanks mate, so no salt. I didnt decarb it before dropping in heptane tho. Useally still a good amount of thca left in kief judging by the oil in boiling water decarb i done prior to this setup lol

But its Also been in the roto for quite some time, first on 60C for severale hours for winterizing then severale hours getting etho out and heptane in, only did 46C ,bath temp there tho.

Ya Will properly skip any dehydration step i got mol sieve tho but cant do Everything in first go either hehe

If you didnā€™t decarb you are dealing with thca. The reason Iā€™m recommending brine is that i had emulsion layers doing the heptane lle which i lost a severe amount. Until youā€™re real familiar with lle you should use brine (3-5% is fine) for your ph washes as it makes the emulsion layer smaller and you should also separate the wash water from the emulsion layer. Save the emulsion layer separately and you can put more heptane in there and recover any cannabinoids stuck there in a later wash.

As i said before use pure water in the end with the natural wash. Make sure you measure the ph in the water before and after the wash, preferably with a ph meter.

When it comes to your layers put the aa on top as the last layer, no solvent needed. Use alot of solvent when making the slurry with the other powders so when you pour into the funnel the powders are in liquid and not a putty. I keep stirring my beaker until i pour it into the funnel. Then the layers should be even. I only have a filter paper underneath the powders and one on top when filtering the oil. You donā€™t need them inbetween the layers. It becomes easier the more you do it.

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i have a 2l and 5 liter funnel, i had read the one with saving the last bit of water and doing in a smaller funnel, though the bottoms of 2 and 5lā€™s sep funnels are about same size.

i have distilled water for last wash, deionized for the others, i just calibrated the cheapo ph 009 meter hehe.

ya might be that i didnt use enough solvent wasnt my best attemp for sure hehe

Just normal table salt? and for 1liter 30-50milliter of salt.

i have my crude ready in 1:4 oil/hep, preparing ph stages now but will wait till tomorrow if need to use salt also

Dont have any NaCi :thinking: but can read people just use plain cheap salt.

Just got my seps cleaned, will do wash tomorrow.

I have used kosher salt and that worked aswell, so you should be fine. I go by weight, not volume, so 30-50g salt/liter.

Itā€™s possible to not use salt, if your emulsion layer is to big you can put some salt in and shake.

Google says:
Add table salt (NaCl). If you know that your sample forms emulsions, you can add the salt to the sample prior to shaking with the solvent. If you are trying to break an already formed emulsion , you can shake the salt into the sample.

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Ah can read that salt doesnt Change the PH, thought it would.

Will give it a go

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Takes forever to get the clean ph 7 wash to separate, only drained out around 1200ml of water in 24 hours lol, trying to separate the stubborn layer in different funnel, got dry ice coming tomorrow so I gotta get finish and decarb so can run tormorrow

It takes so long to separate without salt because its crude oil and not first pass ?

Got the kitchen ā€œsep-upā€ going here

Edit: a bell rang, it was what you guys said witj thc-a, i Will never perform a LLE on non decarbed again, that is a bitch to separate.

Im sure it must me all the thca just havin lunch break in the funnel doin nothing.

Not sure it Will ever seperate 100%

Will do heptane extraction from now and only have to revocer solvents 1 time, and then after sep funnel, making decarb step before more easy feasible

If I knew it would take this long I had decarb before or did on first pass

Huge mistake, canā€™t get I to sep, even reintroduced 5% salt again to the thca solution only, it still wonā€™t. Got it sitting on top of my radiator now hoping higher heat will help a separation

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First headache in this extraction, getting some loss aswell and going back and forth trying to concentrate it down, real shit show very sad I did that

Thinking now instead of reintroducing salt I should just had rotovaped it down since it was distilled water, now I need to either wait to fully sep or rotovape water solution and then decarb, reintroduce in Heptane and do a few washes again to get the salt out I now put in again .

This messed up my timeframe just got 10kg of dry ice delivered and no where near done due to this taking several days

Will it do any bad that last wash had salt in it when Going to SPD

Thatā€™s what I was wonderingā€¦ I donā€™t understand why you canā€™t just heat it up in solution to decarb, then separate after decarbā€¦

Ya i Should have done that instead now it went to hell, def the first and last thca that i have washed,

Now just wondering if I need to get the salt out completely or it will do damage

I want to say that it will be fine, but I donā€™t know 100%. Hopefully one of the other more versed members will be able to give you a better idea of the salt causing problems, or not. Iā€™m not seeing a reason why it would cause a problem, but again, I donā€™t know for sureā€¦

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@SidViscous :thinking: :blush:

Its only about 80ml out of total 300 ml of crude that was reintroduced salt to, just need to know if I should get going or keep them separate until decarb and if needed do new LLLE. I used about 4% salt when reintroduced

If no harm I would just get going with SPD run, my dry ice is fading away and stupid I am I didnā€™t put in the freezer fading away faster, hope there is enough left tomorrow not losing 100$ in dry ice and having to wait till Tuesday to run again

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Yeah itā€™s really not a big deal I donā€™t think. The solubility of NaCl in heptane is almost nothing so there really wonā€™t be any salt in the oil regardless. As far as Iā€™m concerned the point of ending with straight water is to get an unadulterated pH reading, not because the salt is impactful

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I did make a 95% full separation of oil, so I havenā€™t boiled down the crude, but just put salt wash in roto by itself, so canā€™t be that much salt.

Thanks I will start decarb as soon as I wake up and try to get going

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