They have multiplied. Just need to get a better PRV for the second one
Anyway… I’m slow moving, but hopefully will be decarbing another batch here shortly. I will be extending the decarb time, as I got a partial decarb previously but the flavor maintained was quite promising.
I’ve got a lot of work coming up and a good portion of it will end up being decarbrd in this for vapes. So at some point my dumb ass will be able to yield something of value in regard to terp preservation.
I’ve also had success with this type of tek! I placed a jar of terpy sugar in a collection pot, sealed it off, pulled a vacuum, and inserted a neutral atmosphere of nitrogen (just brought it from -30 to 0, with n2), and placed in the oven at 165f for 24 hours. It had all melted and clarified and I put it into carts and it tasted like a fat terpy dab.
That is my experience as well. Glad more people have had success with this…im on the right path
How much you gonna want for that extra one?
fwiw, I also do a similar tech.
I use the retail 5 and 7ml gram jars with ptfe lid. load up with a ml or two of oil place in vac oven for 24-72H @ 130-140f depending on terp amount and previous decarb levels. The co2 will bubble out once the lid is taken off kinda like when you super heat water without it boiling until you add a nucleation point but not as violent, just gotta stir to get it out. Im not shooting for full decarb just enough to prevent larger sugars forming to clog up intakes on carts.
Sounds awesome. Can you elaborate some on what you used for the sealed vessel? Do you know what it’s volume was? And the mass of sugar that was in there? Sorry for all the questions, I would love to be able to do a rough headspace pressure calculation. @TwistedStill too
Certainly. The only other vessel I had was a 10" diameter collection pot, I apologize as I don’t remember the height, but it was probably about 12" tall. I put small jars (open) with 10g of desired oil. I also played around with different ratios of terps:crystals (all in 10g increments in their own respective jars), though never got enough testing done to come to a conclusion. @Pneuma
Got the adjustable PRV, have it set to 50psi…set using a pressure regulator. Tossed in 50gs of gello BHO from a recent run. Vacuumed down the vessel. Purged with nitrogen, and pressurized to 45 psi. Got it decarbing on the hot plate.
Thinking of letting it sit on the hot plate for 2.5 hr for decarb
You’re a fucking rockstar. That thing is a Monet - Nice work!
I will say…the thermal mass of the unit is quite nice for my basic bitch cart filling tek. Keeps my oil warm long enough to fill 50 without noticing a temp drop.
I did notice the PRV venting occasionally…my nose told me so.
I did make this, but I think this thread is less about that, and more about terp preservation. Also…i just got a phone that has a camera again so apparently I take more pictures now?
The carts I make with this using straight BHO, taste wonderful. You can do this with tri clamps…no fancy machining necessary.
Every time I saw the headline I thought of the meme. I had to
@TwistedStill - its a great idea; I’m wondering (in my tiny peanut brain) if there’s off the shelf equipment from beer/wine mfg (or?) that would accommodate more head space for a larger batch ?
Your always welcome to meme my friend.
Any reaction that has a phase change from solid or liquid to gaseous will be affected by pressure.
Because decarbing involves the liberation of CO2 in the gaseous phase, increasing pressure will slow the reaction.
At a high enough pressure, it would probably be possible to carboxylate THC.
This gets complicated because of the critical properties of CO2 but is correct in concept.
As I remember this is Le’Chatilers principle.
I think decarbing under moderate pressure to surpress terpene evolution is a good deal.
The reaction would probably go the other way at 1000 atmospheres.
I didn’t notice a difference between 7psi of nitrogen and 45psi. I’m thinking pressure is less relevant that simply decarbing in an inert atmosphere in a sealed vessel.
I thought adding pressure could make the release of co2 slow. Thank you for that info. You all are why I am able to do this stuff. Your knowledge and experience has leveled me up beyond what I could have done alone.
I think we are talking hundreds of atmospheres before we would see an effect on the decarb reaction.
that has been argued against.
but at 1k atm I’m willing to consider it…
how about you @Photon_noir ?
can someone check my math on how important headspace & PRV’s are?!?
I showed my wife this meme…she is due any day now. She is going to use the meme for the announcement thing when the little dude is born. #memelife @Dred_pirate your meme lives on…
On a side note from the meme, the extra pressure seemed to do nothing to help in terpenes preservation. 7psi if I remember correctly on the first use, and 45psi on the second. I have no data to show this…this is just from knowing the strains I grow, and having experience with them.
But…the carts I made with the oil smell too much to have on my person. I carry one at all times…and 10 hours a day I cannot “smell like the dank” as a coworker so kindly put it. He was right…you can smell it quite a distance away. They are NSFW, at home use only. So that is a sign I’m moving in the right direction I suppose lol
