Or inside whichever
If you dont have shatter by day 2, its probably not gonna happen
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This is how i got my #clorox slabs to stabilize with out going over 95*. The customers seem to like the terps. 
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Im trying that now
there are many reasons why shatter could be unstable… moisture content(typically leads to quick nucleation), pesticide content, poorly flushed harvest, temperature fluctuation, as well as high terpene or cbd content… it sounds to me like youre dealing with a strain that is just very runny in nature, likely due to high terpene content… I would honestly just stop trying to make shatter out of a product that is not meant to be turned into shatter and keep that strain for sauce or badder ect to preserve that high terpene content…
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30 mins is a long soak imo… ive found my sweet spot to be around 10-15 minutes otherwise I start picking up undesirables
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I just so happen to have an undesirable filter.
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My solvent is chilled to -30 then into my jacket column with dry ice and acetone then my water bath has been set to 36.5 but next run I’m going to 85 then I’m going to do @Apothecary36 tek
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Yea I’m going to try and use some to make resin. I’ve never done it before but I think the only difference is it’s a cold purge. And I think I’m going to stall a bit longer. Depending on how fast it’ drops out of my material column I’ll stall the additional solvent for 10-15 minutes a time. Then I run through a 2.5 micron filter and into a crc
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80 degrees celsius or farenheit? You will decarb is at 85C and u will have soup forever.
Do you think so? I don’t think it will get warm enough long enough to decarb. But maybe I’ll go a bit lower just in case
Correct! It also helps slightly decarb enough to the point where there wont be any nucleation because ive had customers/growers who who would rather have shatter than sugar.
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Makes sense! I know what ya mean, some people are dead set on shatter or wax and don’t understand when you try to explain to them why their slabs are not all glass-like shatter. So being able to make that consistently is sweet 
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not sure if ypu do this already but ut in oven heat up for 30 mins until oil is up to temp then pull vac
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3 days @ 90°f and 99°f flip every 12 hours gets me shatter. 12 CFM and 29.8Hg
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Ok so after looking through the back threads and not finding a total answer, I’m going to add to this with a bit of an observation and a question.
Backstory:
I have a mini openblaster for on site and micro tests before we buy large batches of biomass. 95% of the test runs I do come out insanely stable, especially if the product is good.
I then run the same product through my cls. The stability is nowhere near the same.
I am going through every variable at this moment, to troubleshoot this.
I have a couple of ideas of why that may be.
1)moisture buildup in my closed loop solvent tank.
2)terpene buildup in my solvent tank.
3)thinner film when purging solvent from the solution.
4)pressure variable changing the chemistry of the extract?
I have been able to produce amazingly stable shatter in my closed loop, it just seems inconsistent. I am doubtful that it is my oven tech, seeing how stability can be observed within the first 20 minutes of being in the oven, at nearly any temp, based off the density and shape of the bubbles in the muffin and the way it muffins.
Does anyone else have any insight on this or any ideas as to why open blasting produces more stable results than closed loop? I’ve tried solvent temps at -40 and room temp. Done my best to mimic everything from open blasting except the recovery process.
(Should this be in its own post?)
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@Cosmicmonkeybear What blend of solvent do you run? And do you ever clean out your tank? I use 70/30 butane propane
I found this thread Extraction & van der Waals Force
I noticed my psi in my tank at room temperature was almost 100 at room temp and only got down about 50psi at -30. I emptied my tank there as a decent amount but if ice in there as well and when I replaced it. So I’m thinking I must’ve been told running with a really high% of propane as well as having a decent amount of moisture in there.
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I’ve been running straight N tane since I read that thread to avoid picking up moisture through iso. I do clean my tanks, but not very often, that’s what I’m doing today, so I can see if it’s a tank issue. I think more moisture and terpene traps before the tank would be awesome in any system. Maybe a heavy carbon filter would grab terps before they enter the tank … I usually run around 114-125 in my system until it’s reduced about 75% and then I drop to 105-110
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I believe your pulling more fats when doing open. And when running your cls you pulling less of the fats. Just my guess
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I’ve done it from a non chilled tank to see if the fats were stabilizing and it didn’t work for stability just dropped my clarity. I’m testing out of a fresh tank of solvent right now and not out of my closed loop tanks to see if I can tell the difference.
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