Would anyone like to share their thoughts on the commercial viability of root extraction and products sourced from males?
At first glance it looks like tinctures would be the only consumer product, but fine for sale in all states.
Mainly I am looking for an increase the value of male plants, leaves for essential oil and the classic orange/coconut/canna smoothly (limited market), and roots for tincture.
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Have you had testing done on the extract of the roots? Iāve always been curious what a root extraction will bring to the table
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I encourage you to use the website search function or look in the data dumpā¦ Or are you asking less about spectroscopy results and more casual ātestsā relevant for the consumer/marketing?
Iām well aware of how to use the search function. I didnāt just join yesterday. (Not trying to be dickish, just honest.)
I was asking casually, thatās all. I was wondering how it, or if it would be worth it for me to extract my roots. Just personal stuff, no consumer marketing or anything. However, given your response, Iāll just do it myself and find out for myself. Thanks! Hope you have a bitching Sunday!
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ur probably not gonna get anything ud want
wrong root, and its root bark not the roots(Iām just teasing). also wrong species plant to be extracting the roots if ur looking for goodies
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Right on! Thanks! I was just trying to have a conversation more than anything. Iāve read some of the other threads going on about the other plants. In fact, the ones youāre growing if Iām not mistaken? The āSee Elvesā thread
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removing root bark with something like a vibratory tumblerā¦and for the tumbler media abrasive ceramic?
not worth marketing something without a cost effective extraction method I suppose
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If you can get the product on the shelf there will be a huge marketability for it based on my experience. Iāve been using the roots for years now in topicals and they are miraculous in ways that are different than the upper plant. Theyāre great for neuropathy and nerve pain.
Iāve never known how to extract them properly because I couldnāt find any info on it other than conjecture. I expect alcohol would work but I never had that much extra to experiment with. So I used a crockpot in the old fashion fashion, when in doubt put it in the crockpot.
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I have looked into tinctures but Iām not sure all the compounds are safe for ingestion. Iāve found listings of the components and some were hepatoxic so I didnāt go beyond that until someone can prove it safe. I have liver issues and donāt want to chance it. I expect that to be a minimal issue since many beneficial compounds are toxic in larger amounts.
I have many folks who use the root products. I linked one of my posts about roots and my thoughts.
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Incorrect. Maybe wonāt get cannabinoids, but there are some really awesome other compounds that can be extracted. I may dig later and find a few articles for you. Lots of promise for assisting with a variety of ailments.
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Iāll have 20-30lbs of dried root mass from my next rdwc round. Iāll go through the labor of harvesting and drying and split shipping with someone in exchange for the info. Letās figure out whatās in the roots!
Offers on the table.
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Thereās a couple articles on this subject, looks like the main compounds of interest from the roots are glycosides with antibacterial and anti inflammatory activity.
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/can.2017.0028
https://www.karger.com/Article/Fulltext/495582
Cannabis and Cannabinoid Research Journal - credibility for articles published under this journal have yet to be established as far as I know.
I wonder why roots arenāt included in RSO extractions. Canāt hurt right?
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really tell me moreā¦
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Iāll try what could it hurtā¦Idk if we will make profit but coukd be purely for science
what kind extraction is suitable for tbjs
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Most extraction of cannabis root that I am familiar with do not utilize alcohols or hydrocarbons. Water seems to be the solvent of choice.
I remember listening to this podcast about root extractions and promising research a few years ago. I should probably listen again to freshen up.
Edit: After reading for a few minutes, it appears I was incorrect about the solvents most commonly used in root extraction. Seeing all kinds of stuff. Made me realize itās been a few years since Iāve really looked into it. Maybe Iāll go over and have @Photon_noir drop some knowledge on me.
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It would be sweet if the roots grew compounds of commercial value because my fucking cuttings fill a 5 gallon bucket in like 5 days after veg transplant.
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Itās the alkaloids in the roots that make them so valuable along with terpenes and sterols.
" The roots of the cannabis plant have a long history of medical use stretching back millennia. However, the therapeutic potential of cannabis roots has been largely ignored in modern times. Discussion: In the first century, Pliny the Elder described in Natural Histories that a decoction of the root in water could be used to relieve stiffness in the joints, gout, and related conditions. By the 17th century, various herbalists were recommending cannabis root to treat inflammation, joint pain, gout, and other conditions. There has been a subsequent paucity of research in this area, with only a few studies examining the composition of cannabis root and its medical potential. Active compounds identified and measured in cannabis roots include triterpenoids, friedelin (12.8 mg/kg) and epifriedelanol (21.3 mg/kg); alkaloids, cannabisativine (2.5 mg/kg) and anhydrocannabisativine (0.3 mg/kg); carvone and dihydrocarvone; N-(p-hydroxy-Ī²-phenylethyl)-p-hydroxy-trans-cinnamamide (1.6 mg/kg); various sterols such as sitosterol (1.5%), campesterol (0.78%), and stigmasterol (0.56%); and other minor compounds, including choline.
Of note, cannabis roots are not a significant source of Īā¹-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabidiol, or other known phytocannabinoids. Conclusion: The current available data on the pharmacology of cannabis root components provide significant support to the historical and ethnobotanical claims of clinical efficacy. Certainly, this suggests the need for reexamination of whole root preparations on inflammatory and malignant conditions employing modern scientific techniques."
There is at least two of those alkyloids that are liver toxic which is why I never pursued using alcohol to extract for tincture. Until I know the extraction is safe to ingest Iāll just use it for topicals. I have read accounts of people using the roots as homeopathic treatment. Iāve just always used coconut oil for extraction but would like to get a better method.
The roots are miraculous, as much so as the upper plant. I have a few ounces of root extract in my freezer now and I cherish it since Iām not a grower nor do I know any locally anymore.
I canāt sing their praises enough. 
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I would argue that the compounds present do have commercial value, but the market has not been educated as to what that value should be.
If you produce something that can provide anecdotal (qualitative) evidence to back its use, the market will expand from there. Eventually there will likely be pharmaceutical interests that look to take over, as there seems to be promise with some of the isolated compounds.
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Hey, thanks!
Purely for science
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Iāve put my money on Epifriedelanol, itās gonna take a few years to make it commercially viable though.