I could be wrong. What you posted looks pretty black and white lol. Welp. Thats oregon tilth for ya. Or ORGANIC in general.
We use golden barrel organic unsulfured black strap molasses. What a mouthful.
There are 4 classifications of products.
Certified 100% Organic. These items can only contain and be processed with Certified 100% organic products. The USDA Organic logo is allowed to be on the label.
Certified Organic. These items are allowed be processed with or contain up to 5% by weight items from the approved list. The USDA Organic logo is allowed to be on the label.
Made With Organic _______. These must be at least 70% Organic and can state. “Made with organic _____” on the label but cannot have the usda organic logo.
For less than 70% organic. The word organic is allowed to be put before the the organic ingredient on the ingredients list on the label. No USDA logo.
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I’m going to come up with a company that certifies cannabis products under 4 classifications:
100% Full Spectrum
Full Spectrum
Broad Spectrum
Targeted Spectrum
Sounds like some marketing gobbledygook.
This is for livestock.
There are 6 lists
2 for crops
2 for livestock
2 for processed products
If the molasses is used for flavoring and is vetted for use and the organic ingredients are at least 95% then it would be allowed.
Do you have a link to those lists? Be curious to see them.
Is this in writing somewhere as well?
Thank you @MathewScott
Its all very confusing. Were a family owned business, and i can tell you that it was a very detailed and long process. Im not sure if the family could handle going through another round of certification lol.
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It’s my understanding that the “not commercially available” is used pretty liberally here but it’s good @Sterling was able to acquire some organic molasses.
I did cGMP and organic certifications back to back and organic was about 3 times as intense. I just had my cGMP follow up last week and it went well. The organic people haven’t dropped in yet so we will see.
@MathewScott Guhh. I would love for us to get CGMP or heck even GMP but the organic process left a bad taste in my mouth.
Probably will just have to put my big boy pants and do it anyways.
Us going organic was great, it made growing hemp profitable. Because make no mistake, hemp right now is not profitable. No way no how not for the small 20 acre farmer.
However, while the profit is there for organic, the bulk orders are not. Or maybe im just bad at networking, but im sitting on loads of organic crude and bio.
Pectin?
Imma bout to start playing around with making an ‘organic ingredient’ based fruit roll up/fruit leather infused product…but the presevation may be a struggle 
i make gummies and they are good medicine for people on some levels but yeah, I personally don’t eat gelatin and generally eat ‘organic’ as much as possible. The goal is to eventually shift to products that I feel 100% stoked on, I really just started making the gummies per request from a particular client of mine and then friends and family started going wild for them. It was a fun skill to cultivate and project to focus on during quarantine, I have learned a lot. Lol at least now I am making my gummies with organic juices and organic sugar and organic mct oil, but have been resistant to the organic gelatin as most information I have read about it says the flavor of it is much stronger/difficult to override and that the bloom strength is typically lower. And organic corn syrup alone would drive production cost up quite a bit. Majority of the folks who want these gummies are just not that concerned 
but i wish you luck in the endeavor and hope you make some hella good clean gummies 
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im in the group that considers gelatin organic. If I make orgnic gumies do i get extra money? NOPE even my organic weed gets no extra.
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I worked in an all organic vegan kitchen for a few years and we got 5 gallon buckets of organic soybean oil and it cost $99 as opposed to $25 for non-organic. And we still had to charge between $10/$15 for a sandwich just like the crappy bar across the street, because generally people really just wont pay that much more than what they are used to for food on a regular basis.
Using 100% certified organic ingredients will undoubtedly slim your profit margins in most (if not all) situations, i guess the real reward is supposed to be how you feel about what you’re creating and sharing at the end of the day
if you can figure out a way to make a lot of money that is in full alignment with your true values- than fuck to the yeah- you are going to be really stoked in life
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I use jello or jolly rancher powder and gelatin, I think my veg glycerin and mct is organic but if you eat 5 gummies youll be fucked up.
I’ve searched the Organic Integrity Database for organic pectin and gelatin and came up short. Though both are on the list of approved inorganically produced ingredients.
https://organic.ams.usda.gov/Integrity/
It seems the reason items get put on the list is because of food safety or its not practical to make them organically. The thing to remember is if the USDA organic seal is displayed that 95% or more of the contents are organic.
Fruit leather is easy, just use ethanol as the carrier and dehydrate like normal
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Potassium sorbate to preserve? Trying to figure out long term shelf stability
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actually been buying from organic alcohol for years and yes they have many many different options for 190proof plus so he does have a point there