Yea, I imagine I never got bunk pills cause who the hell would want to be known as a bunk dealer.
No one wants to be known as such, but that was the whole pointā¦ They were selling counterfeit of my stuff as the real thing because it cost them pennies to make and I was wholesaling minimum orders of no less than 10,000 at a time if I remember correctly for around $5.50 or $6.00 (sorry itās been a minute I donāt remember exact price is very well)
I do remember when a popular pill came out people made weaker copies. I never felt like it was cut with random stuff though.
Yeah and that started happening around the mid-90s right after the big brown spec pill died off (lab got busted in Mexico)
Yeah now that you mention it I do remember that. wellā¦ i guess it took until that happenedā¦
Idk man again I wasnāt into that crowd and at that time I thought speedballs meant mdma and cocaine and E meant mdma a lot of people probably still did or didnāt care. Maybe I just grew up around people who just didnāt care or maybe the people selling it didnāt care.
I remeber my first time. Took 1 and didnāt feel much so I took another one. Experianced guy was like wtf you suppose to wait for more than 15mins.
Tripping balls and hallucinating dinosours after.
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MDMA eluded me for a long time because I had no interest in doing it and it wasnāt something a lot of people I knew did or knew people that sold it. Everyone I knew was either smoking weed, doing shrooms or snorting coke and getting drunk. That or abusing their pills. I didnāt really associate with the party crowds, I kinda just chilled with people who stayed up all night talking about hopes and dreams while smoking weed or moving candles around while talking on shrooms.
It was usually a nice time and I hope everyone is okay.
Real mdma is made from natural sassafras oil period this has the perfect r and s ratio when produced by the cold route ( lowest yield)
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While I have immense respect for you and your knowledge and your knowledge far surpasses my own, I must say that alexander shulgin would and did argue differently. I can say this because thatās what he directly told me back in the early 90s. In fact he also wrote so in his book as well. heliotropin to nitrostyrene, nitrostyrene to P2P, P2P to finish product. The results will be a 50/50 racemic mixture. I have used both heliotropin and safrole, both on fairly large scale. While following good laboratory procedures and taking care to carefully distill the finished product in my experience the finished product made from each of the different starting materials is indistinguishable from the other.
Now having said all of that, I have recently heard of people getting a form of (we can call it a precursor) P2P from asia that technically is not P2P but with very simple procedure will become so. Iām told that using the P2P that comes from that will give you a finished product that is not a perfect 50/50 racemic mixture. At least thatās what Iām told. I donāt know this to be a fact because I have not made any of this stuff in more than 20 years.
If you have any literature to show me otherwise please refer me to it I would very much enjoy reading it.
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Do you know of any literature that talks about the activity differences between the R and S isomers?
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I was getting this brown sugar looking rock from Canada some of the rocks were like an ounce and if you broke em you could find moisture in them not a lot but liquid
It was for sure not MDA as it tested straight to purp on marquis and then blue with simons. It was was more potent than the traditional super clear clean looking rocks you see.
It smelled of licorice / root beer
This was like ten years ago now but Iām very curious on why this stuff was so different and much better
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When the feds picked me up they picked up all of my literature which was many many boxes full (before the days of getting everything on the internet you had no choice but to go to the library and read a whole fuck load and make copies of a whole fuck load of stuff). So unfortunately I do not remember my sources. But back in the day I did have some discussions about it with Sasha. If I remember correctly if you look at his book (PIHKAL) there is an analytical part 2 everything that was made. Itās been many years since Iāve read it but if I recall correctly he had a brief discussion about the different isomers.
But either way my knowledge of the chemistry of MDMA pretty much stopped accumulating at the early 2000s (the feds donāt let you receive any reading material about drug chemistry when you are on āfederal vacationā). Although every now and then out of curiosity I look at some of the new synthetic routes and I am amazed at how cavemen like knowledge I have by todayās standards.
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From FIHKAL
(with 100 mg of the āRā isomer) āThere were the slightest of effects noted at about an hour (a couple of paresthetic twinges) and then nothing at all.ā
(with 160 mg of the āRā isomer) āA disturbance of baseline at about forty minutes and this lasts for about another hour. Everything is clear by the third hour.ā
(with 200 mg of the āRā isomer) āA progression from an alert at thirty minutes to a soft and light intoxication that did not persist. This was a modest +, and I was at baseline in another hour.ā
(with 60 mg of the āSā isomer) āThe effects began developing in a smooth, friendly way at about a half-hour. My handwriting is OK but I am writing faster than usual. At the one hour point, I am quite certain that I could not drive, time is slowing down a bit, but I am mentally very active. My pupils are considerably dilated. The dropping is evident at two hours, and complete by the third hour. All afternoon I am peaceful and relaxed, but clear and alert, with no trace of physical residue at all. A very successful ++.ā
(with 100 mg of the āSā isomer) āI feel the onset is slower than with the racemate. Physically, I am excited, and my pulse and blood pressure are quite elevated. This does not have the āfireā of the racemate, nor the rush of the development in getting to the plateau.ā
(with 120 mg of the āSā isomer) āA rapid development, and both writing and typing are impossible before the end of the first hour. Lying down with eyes closed eliminates all effects; the visual process is needed for any awareness of the drugās effects. Some teeth clenching, but no nystagmus. Excellent sleep in the evening.ā
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MDEA most likely
Hard to get tested for BUt if you recrystelize this almost black solution after first harvest and concentrating the solution again in you will notice a urchin like white crystal starts growing in the solution as well ( white crystals) while the mdma in the solution will keep crystelizing in a darker and darker color
It s a side reaction that happens frequently and some like mdea better than mdma
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From my understanding
(August de loor ) the guy that started pill testing at raves here in the Netherlands sassefras oil cold route gives a 70R 30S composition mdma
Wich is the first recipe used in the early 80ā s king pin Steve brown at that time
Seems to be the first to have implemented this synthesis at a large scale in europe at that time
Admiting he got it from a group in California back then
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Where does the extra carbon come from?
Unless Iāve lost my mind it was Merck that first came out with the molecule in the very early 1900s and they did so by bromination of safrole which involves high pressure and heat. Now itās been a long time for me so it is very possible thereās new information that indicates that a 70/30 mix is the best which is quite intriguing for me. I guess I might have to get my hands on some, grab some tartaric acid and start playing around with different ratios 
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Bromination by H-Br is done cold in organic solvent. What type of bromination did Merck do, Br2?
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If I remember correctly it was done in a āhigh pressure bombā.
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Isnāt that the conversion of safrol to isodsfrol.
I think there used to be a 2K threshold on isosafrol ā¦say 1990 and thus one could start there, no need for nasty bromination.
Or i could be wrong.
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