Use Epsom- the point of this is to make it cheap right? Epsom salts are pure magnesium sulfate
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Fair enough. Would US silica answer it if i called them up? Worth a shot, worst they can say is fuck off
Yea I was thinking the same thing, i just didn’t know if there’s a difference between the two that would make a difference. Should this be done in a reactor or a distiller with a reflux column and condensor? Any harmful vapors i should worry about?
Making Sodium Silicate or Water Glass Easy way to make the sodium silicate so now it’s really cheap to make
Our MagsilPR is synthetic magnesium silicate activated above 675c.
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We have never sourced from US Silica and we’ve had it made to our spec from the same manufacturer since the day we started carrying it, so none of what you said there is true.
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We literally began offering MagsilPR because US Silica was charging $275/kg and we knew we could get our industry a better deal. They’ve lowered their prices to compete with us so I’m sure they’d answer if you called…but why
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Funny when Goliath underestimates David…
Seems like all those little rocks started taking their toll!
On the topic at hand, whatcha think about the idea of baking your own magsil at home?
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We have a family of silicas about to drop here in about a week. Silica60 is not really meant for our application. We will have 2 strenghts of pesticide remediation. One more affordable that will in most cases get all the pesticides and one that will be priced similar to MagSil but it is highly selective of pesticides. Activation alone will not make it suitable for pesticide remediation. Its more in the particle size and uniformity of the shape.
ALSO we got a family of carbons coming as well, but we see more use for this as a deodorizer than color removal. Finally we’ve seen ppl complain about the molecular sieves not doing much. Some are not sure it’s doing anything at all. @spdking mentioned they dont work if you remove the turbulence in the flow meaning they dont work passive only in active recovery situations, so we designed a silica that will work in passive, active, vapor phase and even if it sat in the liquid solvent itself. It will have indicators to let you know when it’s time to change/day out. This will require us to add a small sight glass section to our sieve to know when it’s time for a change.
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Again I state that this thread and this forum is made for people to share information and learn so that we are better educated on the materials and processes we as an industry use- I would never suggest that a company capable of purchasing magsil in bulk start a side business making it in house- but for a hobbyist or small producer who has more time than money and would like to further their knowledge and practice fairly easy, cheap, and interesting chemical processes such as synthesizing and making their own- this seems like an ideal process-
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i totally agree with what @rowan said too. People like @Roguelab might not have access to Magsil PR but might have access to a kiln and magnesium silicate. i think a bunch of us have really forgot that a portion of the forum is in other countries where magsil pr and adsorbents might not be available. A ton of us have gotten use to Amazon Prime and think the world has same day shipping on literally everything.
I cant tell you how many clients i have from spain and italy that dont have pesticide remediation
adsorbents. i think this is a good conversation to have not to start a side business but more to show capabilities when the resources might not be readily available.
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Exactly. This is a skill I’d like to learn and I’ll probably still buy lab grade magsil pr but making a cheap alternative would help out a ton and I’d be able to get pesticide free distillates to people who need it for lower price than i can now. It’s hard to compete with the huge companies selling dist at rock bottom prices unless i can stand out with quality and do a third or fourth pass on my biomass to increase my yields
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I was wondering if their magsil pr is synthetic or not because I haven’t heard a definite answer. And where can i get magsil pr for 275 a kilo? Lowest i can find is $180 for 500g from BVV on amazon. I wasn’t claiming to know how you manufacture it at all
BVV has there florasil PR ( which they did a study on to show what pesticides it works on ) for 2250 for 10kg if I remember correctly, check the BVV website
Or ask me to order for you cuz I got the wholesale hookup on bvv items
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I actually sell carbon chemistry magsil pr for $215 a kg shipped priority mail and even cheaper with quantity.
I can ship tomorrow
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Thanks everyone for the hookup. I have 1kg on the way already but I’ll hit y’all up when i need more
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So would you recommend using a reactor for making the magsil or can i Just use a beaker on a magnetic stirrer?
Reactors are ideal for large volumes but always make sure to do your stoichiometry and know what products you are making, caustic and toxic gasses need to be contained, and a lot of reactions generate heat so making sure to take notes and study first before attempting any reaction is a must.
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