Making magsil

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Why does it rob yields?

That was the consensus of the color remediation thread, that magnesol was robbing yields. It seemed everyone stopped messing with it after that was reported.

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Who’s arguing? I’ve never used the stuff and I’m trying to come up with solutions - if getting you to keep googling for me is as easy as telling you you’re wrong, why not right?

If it’s as simple as kitty litter and lye and some acid and then driving over to my glassblowers shop to bake it off I’m sorta stoked to try it

For those that have a pottery kiln and time
Magnesol heated in a kiln at 600-625C will have very similar property s as florisil it s not lab grade but very usefull and cheap

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I posted this a while back and it works
At around 75% of Florisil

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Just in case you want to make magnesol

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Hi sir, dont mean to be a bother but i read the patent and found this passage:

My new process makes its production more economical by reducing the number of operating steps. and in reducing the time of boiling to produce the activated form of the magnesium silicate.

I think this means the product is heat activated by boiling :confused: perhaps king of kush is right :wink:

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Well, that’s all fine n dandy-

“But my Method Is to produce Magnesol5X”

“What’s the 5X stand for?”

“It’s five X”

“It’s five times what?”

“It’s just better, it’s five X”

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But if it’s boiled then it can’t reach the high temps for activation

I understand sir but based on the language in it does appear there is an activating step albeit one that does not require traditional energies :relieved: it seems that the primary activation is chemical, as in the case where other adsorbents are chemically activated with an acid

Yeah that’s true, So this is a completely feasable option for folks who don’t have much money to spend on expensive media but do have some time on their hands, and access to a furnace or kiln.

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The reason i quit using magnesol early on was that i didnt c it doing anything. Thats all. Nothing to do with yields. I believe everyone was saying silica 60 was robbing yields

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Yes :smiley: perhaps its a way to make it economically viable, let us know how it scales! -PS the process involves chemical activation maybe do some pH studies of the media :wink:

Seems like a simple cheap amazon kiln can easily reach those temps and is pretty economical…

2700f is way hotter than 675c

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Killa do it. Take the next step.

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I don’t got no time for that. I’m trying to make more time with my son before he goes to college. Not take more. I can buy magsil pr

Seems possible though for the low

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do you know if carbon chemistry magsil is synthetic? If not, what is it derived from? I’d like to take magsil pr and magsil produced the way rowan Is saying but heat it to 675C and run the same batch of dist split into 2 parts through each one. Seems like that’s the only way we would know for sure. I have about 500g of this dist I’d be down to try it on

@Shadownaught has said it’s heat activated to 675c numerous time in the past. Pretty sure that’s how it’s made. I tagged him in so hopefully he can enlighten us

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@Rowan which one of these do you think I should use, since the patent calls for 1 part sodium silicate to 5 parts water couldn’t i just use this https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Silicate-40-Water-Glass/dp/B00QL4ZV0I/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=sodium+silicate&qid=1583637327&sr=8-7 which is already diluted in water then add water to make it the correct ratio? Or should i use this Amazon.com

Then add 1 part salt and heat until it’s hazy then add https://www.amazon.com/Reagent-Grade-Anhydrous-Magnesium-Sulfate/dp/B0787ZQTRJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?keywords=magnesium+sulfate&qid=1583637428&sr=8-14 or should i use this https://www.amazon.com/Epsoak-Epsom-Salt-Magnesium-Sulfate/dp/B004N79BYC/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?keywords=magnesium+sulfate&qid=1583637488&sr=8-12

I know they use to get it from US silica

Idk anymore though

A bunch of ppl I talked to said there absorbent have changed and don’t work the same anymore so idk