Ket was the one that pushed him to borderline psychosis, messed with his personality hard, aggressive one day, cool another, gave his family all sorts of hell, dude blew through tens of thousands on Ket.
I don’t know why it’s hard to believe a very powerful substance in quantity amongst a population with no oversight would be dangerous. 
but okay.
I know it’s not popular opinion, but uhhhh, it’s problematic, to say the least.
I’m not saying it isn’t happening to that one person but ketamine is not some scourge ruining communities like opiates and meth.
I’d argue its every bit as problematic, just not nearly as endemic. Ket isn’t being made by the ton south of the border, opiods are made by the ton in China, ket, is pretty limited in where it’s manufactured in comparison.
I’m all for legalizing everything btw, but I also believe our society has to prepare for it, and have appropriate places for their use. Just legalizing everything would be dangerous, and downright stupid.
Used to see pallets of vet vials sent all over the US from down south way back in the day. China makes a ton of the street K now. It’s still not a neighborhood ruiner. No one is robbing their momma for ketamine money.
People rob they mama for weed money dude, I think that’s a gross oversimplification of people, every time you say “naw, nobody be doin’ that”, there be someone, going and doing that.
K is fun, but nothing id abuse. I also dont see how it has such a high probability of abuse, yet I’ve know a few people hooked. being in a k-hole is terrifying to me, yet I’m sure theres a subset of the population that’s into that kinda dissociative effect.
But weed and ketamine don’t wreck havoc on communities and resources like meth and opiates and alcohol do
Man, I’m on repeat now, those other drugs are manufactured in much larger quantities to do so… thats common sense, ket is not nearly as easy to come by, to wreak the havoc you speak of.
But it has a high potential for abuse, as bad as the other drugs you mentioned.
How’d this go from a methamphetamine side effect thread, to a thread defending ketamine thread?
Is it that hard to believe that ALL drugs can be problematic.
Now they are problematic because people, any person that has any problems with one substance, would likely have trouble with any other. How people utilize these substances, are where it is problematic.
I can come by ketamine much quicker than I could come by meth. This is all anecdotal.
I think it has a ton of potential for depression.
I’m not defending ketamine. Comparing it to meth opiates alcohol and adderall is a stretch I feel
And amphetamines are good for focus, opiates are good at pain remediation, RC’s are good to study the nervous system and how novel substances effect it, all I said was, it has its problems too. Just like any other substance.
Jeezus peeps.
Yes amphetamines are great for focusing but it comes at a price
I agree with statement, but its entirely dependent upon personality, those with addictive personalities and those with genetic predispositions to mental illness should stay clear of all compounds that are psychoactive imo
Personally I like drugs, but in extreme moderation, like shit it’s up to the user to be able to control themselves, and certain compounds like opioids, meth, coke and crack should just be avoided entirely.
When they stop being fun that’s when you know you have a problem.
All drugs have some degree of abuse potential for someone… look at the fucking body builders abusing peptides and hormones.
I think it’s up to the individual. I don’t beneive addiction is an uncontrollable disease
Bingo^^^^
If people don’t do it with one substance, they’d do it with another, an addict is an addict, how it effects them physiologically is where the trouble is.
Some people, genetically have weaker impulse control. So addiction can happen a lot easier in some folks, but I agree it’s not a disease.
The worst drug of all is alcohol. I’ve known more people throw away their lives drinking than anything.
Honestly it’s all just control. You get burned enough hopefully you stop touching the fire
Again not judging
Addiction isn’t genetic…
It’s almost entirely circumstantial.
Trauma, trauma is the secret ingredient to addiction