XD it’s cool as shit to watch right before your eyes. All the crashing. Can see the differences at the end of the day.
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Thanks I was on the road and just catching up now.
@cyclopath Co-crystal is the correct term. They are two molecules making one crystal lattice together. I had experience doping materials before but that is more on atomic scale rather than molecular - but I don’t know if this still is considered a form of doping
You can see the difference in the pictures that WillBilly has gotten them looking more uniform and consistent. This is totally dependent on the Ratio of the terpene molecule to THCA. Looks like he’s got that figured out pretty well
I think color caused from inclusions vs co-crystallization would be inconsistent and random in concentrations/ratios
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how would you address the citation from @anon64373531?
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Calling it cocrystalization is wishful thinking. Hell, it’s more of a happenstance discovery and the only proof we have of efficacy is the aesthetic effect of looking at pretty blue crystals.
Not saying there is no added effect, just saying there’s no proof in this pudding.
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I haven’t read the entire paper but it looks like it explains some techniques used to make cocrystals. 
Pharma uses cocrystals to ensure chirality in their APIs and, they have to be uniform and consistent to be accurately dosed. There are methods for Controlling the ratios as well
Sorry if I’m missing the point of your question.
@anon64373531 it can definitely be determined by crystallography report that it is a cocrystal
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Nitrogen is a single atom. Same with the carbon in the diamond lattice. So it’s just carbon atoms and nitrogen atoms that are building blocks of crystal
In the case of THCA crystals, it’s the entire molecule of thca that is the building block, not just carbon alone.
Does this help?
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What an ironic term
nope.
…but I’m not at all invested in this and folks are free to call it whatever they like.
this is cannabis after all and nobody bothers to use the correct terminology.
imo co-crystall implies an entirely new lattice structure. that’s not happening in the doped diamonds nor in the blue THCA crystals.
I have spent a fair amount of time hanging out with crystallographers…'cause they always used to have the best computators.
when aiming at “co-crystal”, if you fuck up the stoichometry, you don’t GET a crystal.
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It is a cocrystal. It is a new crystal lattice which is why the color change because the energy of the lattice is different than with THCa alone
I’m not following your thinking
The ratios do matter and will determine everything. A cocrystal with 3:1 will look very different often times than a cocrystal at 1:1
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it is NOT a NEW crystal lattice.
it’s a crystal lattice where 1 out of every 10,000 (or less) THCA molecules is replaced with a non-thca molecule.
which is conceptually no different from swapping out 1:100000 carbons for a boron in diamond. except “molecules” are both more finicky and more flexible when it comes to stacking.
yep, those “holes” change the macroscopic properties, but if you look at how THCA stacks with THCA stacks with THCA, that stacking is the same…except for every now and then, there is something else in the lattice.
Not my area of expertise, but I did work in a lab where the PI’s goal was to obtain representative crystal structures for every protein family out there.
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if we were talking 1:1 or 3:1 we WOULD be looking at a co-crystal…possibly even 1:10
when crystallizing macromolecules (eg proteins), there is often a REQUIREMENT for water in the crystal. folks refer to “water of crystallization” rather than calling them “co-crystals”.
assuming 99% THCA, we’re looking at doped, defects, or inclusions.
doped participates, and is fitting for the product. I suggest running with it. because those are NOT co-crystals.
if their inclusion requires rapid crashing, they are defects or inclusions.
anyone know where the “page a crystallographer” button is?
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Lol y Pop
If its a newly discovered crystal structure he should patent it, I don’t think he has and anyone knows that crystal structures (especially new ones) are patentable
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I am under the understanding that He has several patents. Ask him
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Ya speaking from my success with the quick crash. That quick crash sop I can dope the crystal with just about anything I want so far. Here is nearly half a percent terpenes doped into a clean thca crystal.
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@TheWillBilly care to chime in?
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You don’t need the lattice to change to change the color. Beer-Lambert says otherwise.
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In this case the fact that it’s not blue as a liquid provides evidence that the color comes from crystal lattice being the way it is. Otherwise it would be a blue liquid