It's Willbillytek. Duh

C’mon man so you get a corvette AND immortality… surely the hash gods will grant me at least a nibble from the tree of life for my efforts

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the-office-michael-scott

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The pink looks killer. I want to try some!

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:joy::joy::joy::clap::clap::clap:

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Mitokid’s noted remarks about ionic metal salts should be taken seriously.
and the examples of ammonium salts and organic ammonium “salts”
is something for everyone to consider.
“It is not a matter of thca salt vs thca proton …it is a matter of whether
butane extractors know which one they have”
With the Ortho-hydroxy Salicylate like moiety, but in Resorcinol analogue form…
one has to wonder about the disassociation of the H+ unit…being not only solvent dependent but also “ion pairing” dependent, e.g., a primary, or secondary amine, vs a
tertiary amine. There may well be a grey area of “ion liquids” to deal with here
and relative degrees of proton transport depending on aprotic vs protic solvents as well.
This is what I read in the literature. And of course, everything discussed here is pH dependent as we are working with weak acids and bases.

Exhibiting a pKa of 3 and bound in a intra molecular hydrogen bonded ring,
what do we really know about “solution salts” or crystalline salts of cannabinoic acids
or ionic liquid forms.

Well it s all jiberish to me but salting out defenatly is peaking my interest by the day
So the amine is ok low yield and well
The left over crude is ruined
Now ammonia is a whole different story in pure form it s a great reagent



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As usual stupid lab errors :joy: let it crystelize in a tight neck flask :joy:
And as usual the reactor is a hotwater boiler with some triclamp welded on works like a charm
O by the way this is cbd-a

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@ Roguelab: Ok…we have a genuine “salter” here. Nice job on the HW heater with 3ph mixing head ?.nice.
What amine did you use? In this type combination of the salicylate moiety
in combination with a protonated- alkyl amine…it is possible the salt…
is a liquid.
Definition of ionic liquids: An ionic liquid (IL) is a salt in the liquid state . In some contexts, the term has been restricted to salts whose melting point is below some arbitrary temperature, such as 100 °C (212 °F).
So the product after solvent evaporation may look like a “resin”…???
Ammonia salt:
now if you decarb it…do you find the CBD left in jar…and smell the ammonia as it goes off?

One additional thought, Willbilltek is running into the thousands of comments.
Why not spin off derivative subject matter. Cannabinoate Salts: the known knowns?

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Nice reactor!!

Thx I would recomend these hotwater boilers
Defenatly for cold reactions for the insulation keeps ice from forming in the outside
And with rxn times of 48H you can imagine what a glass vessel would look like at -10C

That’s the last thing I wish to do all this effort only to keep the A :grin:

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How do they work for heat?

That depends
They are very good to make liquids hot
But it depends on if the reaction needs to be done dry
Most have a coils inside Wich when heated does not dry the inside
There are jacketed types and the so called tank in tank types
These are my favorite to work dry
Only down side is it s extremely hard to add or weld additional ports
And you will have to place them on a strong magnetmixer (diy)

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Makes it too easy to find…

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Are you able to test the powder for the NH³ or know where its peak would land on the GC

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GC is non-trivial (not happening on the rig I have access to).

…but there are other ways of performing that identification, and I’m reasonably sure @Photon_noir can get it sorted once he gets his hands on it.

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:smiling_face_with_three_hearts::smiling_face_with_three_hearts::smiling_face_with_three_hearts::smiling_face_with_three_hearts::smiling_imp:

I’ll make plans for a road trip very soon

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Hey man, my rig is wide open. Somebody give me something worth playing with!!

Where is the geometry?

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