Figured as much. Jars of solvent in the freezer and open filtration. Both things you’d be safer not performing that way.
Doesn’t look like he has analytics in house, and I’m betting he’s never sent those “waxes” out for testing.
He might not be crashing out thca along with his fats/waxes, but I can almost guarantee that some of the folks following at home are.
if you’re going to open blast you shouldnt expect to be able to do the exact same procedures as a CLS IMO, maybe an expert can but not a novice.
just blast into a warm water bath and evaporate slowly using warm water or a heating pad.
no need to over-complicate things…
So you’re saying it’s possible to crash out THCa in the freezer while the solids separate?
Interesting. He makes some amazing concentrates that guy, if you watch some of his videos you’ll see.
I’ve followed his process to make sugar and it worked perfectly.
I see how this forum can quickly turn in to something different to original questions lol
It’s a bit of a bully brigade.
Some cool dudes who just want to help, then there’s some who aren’t.
Thanks for your time.
I just don’t like passive aggressive statements. It’s something humans learned how to do at school when you felt like another kid was bigger or stronger or smarter than you .
Similar to the way a gorilla beats it’s chest.
Any way. Thanks for your help.
Not jumping in the ring, but one of the most heated debates you can have in cannabis extraction is about open blasting. It is very unsafe and environmentally unfriendly, and illegal almost everywhere. That is a major reason why you have been met with hostility. Another reason is that on forums like this you’re expected to have some basic knowledge or at least the courtesy not to ask simple questions that have been answered so many times over the years, like what components are in a CLS. This is literally an archive of knowledge with a pretty good search function scripted in, please use it to your advantage. Sorry your approach to learning wasn’t as positive as you had hoped, but there’s still good info even in the hate.
I asked a simple question. Which turned in to an open blast vs cls weigh in.
But thanks for your input.
I had trouble finding the info I was looking for regarding moisture in BHO open blasting.
If you can find any information… Send me the link.
I didn’t expect my first post in this forum to be so hostile. The legalities of blasting is a moot point.
absolutely. lots of folks using a second solvent throwing huge amounts of THCa in the trash with their waxes.
see: Search results for 'cold crash' - Future4200 which will mostly be deliberately crashing cannabinoids rather than fats/waxes
Thank you for that info! I had no idea that I could be crashing THCa while I’m trying to separate.
Damn, I already freeze my column and chill the tane. Even doing that, I still get a lot of “wax” separating when I put it in the freezer.
Looks like I won’t be doing that any more.
Question…
Does a CLS remove more fats and lipids simply because dry ice is utilized during the extraction?
The town I live in doesn’t have dry ice lol gotta ship in 5kg boxes.
you absolutely could be.
only way to really know is to get them tested.
certainly lots of folks doing almost exactly the same trick to get their jars of diamonds going. it’s not necessary, but it is effective.
a CLS gives you more control. over a number a variables. including keeping fuel away from oxygen & ignition. if used with dry ice on solvent and column, you’ll need N2 or a pump as a motive source to move solvent through the system.
at -50C your solvent will pull less fats/waxes from the material. it will also leave behind more of the cannabinoids unless you also use more solvent.
Retracted.
Get a cls and read otssc tek
But I stand by: we’re not trying to bully you we’re trying to keep you safe by saying switch to a cls.
All love from the forum
Chur no stress. I definitely over reacted a little.
I’m definitely on board with changing to CLS and have already started talking to someone locally as a result of this post.
Now I’m studying like mad through the vast library of information I’m discovering on this forum today, before my new CLS comes.
Nga mihi nui koutou (thank you very much all)
Kia Ora
Put the bowl on a small heating pad if it’s a small enough run
https://graywolfslair.com/index.php/category/8-essential-oil-safety/
Great reads from the master @Graywolf
If you run colder no ice will come from your mass. You have moisture in the air that could mix after you’ve open blasted. When your column is not cold enough your butane turns moisture to ice immediately locking compounds into ice. Or water contamination. That sux!
There is more to this observation. Think something like THCA-Palmitamide complexes….or similar.
Also your. Statement about -50 need for more solvent….are you suggesting a standard ratio biomass to butane achieves a “saturation” limit? Chalk in column and rapid crystallization suggests something.
An explanation of chalk in base of extraction column would go a long way…
You seem to be on the edge of observations that may explain a few known unknowns.
Off topic:
WO 2014/134281 A1 sections 69-81 should be relooked at …
I think you may have been the OP.
Nice
This is so unsafe. I hope you find a less risky way to work before you hurt yourself or someone else.
And, if you’re interested, the people and resources are here to help you level up. This is a great place to start:
https://graywolfslair.com/index.php/category/8-essential-oil-safety/
Stay safe!
