Or maybe the impurties dont refact light so theyre colorless
So if i mix colorless terpenes and colorless cannabinoids together they wont be clear then because the cannabinoids arent pure?
I claimed i was wrong if we are actually counting quinones to be cannabinoids, (about all cannabinoids being clear)but everything else i stated is fact. D9thc is clear and oxidzation creates a new compound.
Yes if you mix pure cannabinoids and clear terps together with no reactions or oxidization occuring it will remain clear
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Not gonna lie, I was talking about D9 specifically.
But the point remains that colorless does not necessarily mean more pure.
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KOK: can you please reference the paper where Mechoulam demonstrates the isolation of clear d9THC and demonstrates its optical absorption properties…?
Thanks, I’d like to read the details. Does this mean d9-THCQ is yellow?
there is a lot of jumping back and forth between d9THC and CBD here …I think each should be kept separate; it only adds a bit of confusion.
Question for those who do claim to have colorless d9THC:
What is the shelf life of that product? How long before it turn pale yellow. Just curious?
Thanks
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I do not know which paper he does this in, maybe @globtek33 does
I think its red personally which is why d9 oxidizes red and it would explain the red ring of death that forms on top of distillate which has been proven to be quinone
Depends on storage conditions if you keep it inert it wont change color if you let oxygen get in the top will oxidize just like normal distillate and will go from
Itll only do it on the top layer though it wont do it throughout the whole liter unless you mix it around
Seem to recall vivid example posted around here that was best explained by O2 introduced in the act of stiring…but “why is my shit changing color” has come up enough I’m not going digging.
Edit: %^^%*. Hit it in one…
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They probably heated that in a microwave
My converted d9 does that when i heat it
Heres a picture of it
Heres d8 that’s just sat in a media bottle for a year
Let me see if i can find the year and a half old d8 thats been vacuum sealed in mason jars, you can see there minimal oxidation on the top
I guess i didnt post it in the microwave distillate thread i thought i did
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What a waste of a good Friday! Everyone is right. I’m the only one wrong. There, problem solved. XD lab testing sucks is the real lesson.
Whenever something goes wrong me or Joe just say it was your fault laugh and move on
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It’s the best solution to the problem.
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Thank you…yes I have run into both pale yellow and reds
(Perhaps acid catalyzed ) with the d9 in purified states.
Informative.
Purples with the CBD rescorcinols …the purple fuckup in water processing of course…far more prevalent.
KOK thanks…all makes sense. Perhaps the d9 oxidation to The d9THCQ is two step with a Semiquinone intermediate…thus the yellow to red two step….
This is total speculation…perhaps some one more knowledgeable might comment.
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Never thought to weigh it to see how decarbed it is. Smart. Thanks. Been giving decarbed diamonds and 5% CDT to cancer patients. They come back lol.
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I finally broke a media bottle w the microwave a few months ago on some fully crystallized CBN wasnt pleasant.
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This is 100% accurate
The proof is when i made thc o acetate and it lightened the distillate used from red to yellow
Heres the test for it by ms too
1000mg/g as tested by kca
I also mentioned the semiquinone intermediate but not by name
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uh huh…. except for the part where that was aimed @globtek33
Or are you also pedaling an isolate producing thingumajig?
That video (with the sound off) looked to me to be a solid start for OP.
@Mresearch: with the caveat that headspace is important, and glass often makes for a lousy pressure vessel.
See: https://future4200.com/t/a-theory-on-bho-rosin-decarboxylation-with-natural-terpene-preservation/18731 for discussion.
Decarb for carts question - #24 by 406_Chemabis for maths
And Be careful what you turn into a pressure vessel. for general advice on constructing your gernades
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XD this is turning into a
What is making my product this color?
Thread.
Broken glass and cbn is a pita…
Claims that colorless distillates are purer than those that are colored may or may not be true. For example, a colorless substance may contaminate a distillate thereby rendering it impure.
Our ability to observe color in a substance or mixture of substances is due to the absorption of light in the visible region by one or more of its components. For example, examination of the absorption spectra of both D8-THC and D9-THC reveals that they have no absorption in the visible range (above 400 nm). Therefore, a sample of pure D8-THC or pure D9-THC is colorless as are mixtures of the two.
However, the presence of small amounts of substances that absorb light in the visible range can impart color to colorless substances even when present at low concentrations. The absorptivity (molar absorption coefficient) of a substance is a measure of how strongly a chemical species absorbs light at a given wavelength and is an inherent property of the chemical. Since the absorptivities of some impurities of the cannabinoids (in particular, oxidation products like the quinones) are very high, small quantities of these chemicals in otherwise colorless substances can impart color that is visible to the unaided eye. On the other hand, contamination of a mixture with an impurity that does not absorb in the visible region or that has a low absorptivity in the visible region may not impart any color to the mixture. For these reasons, the color of a distillate is not a reliable indicator of its purity.
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Purple is sexier anyways.
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I just decarb @230F for 7-9 hours depending on if your using agitation or not.
Edit- Start out at 250F for the first 2 hours or so. Also reintroducing cannabis derived terps @5-7% helps keep any residual THCA from crashing back out after the decarb.
Lmfao decarbing thca isn’t liquid diamonds that’s just regular d9 thc… how the heck are people managing to claim that legally?
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