ok… Ill pay you for the time you helped with them labels… and helped me unload… Pay me for all the times you hit my phone with business questions?? deal??
Maybe you should hold out till you get your rights back?? we already know some of the rules and shit are setup by @sidco. None of this shit changes UNLESS HE WANTS IT. its really that simple. this site is ran like a dictatorships. once you understand that. things get a lot less personal.
I mean, you know I used to charge people for using my wooks too? But I’m not asking for money, I’m asking for the right to edit my own posts. A right that 88% of this forum agrees with right now.
Ok, what about my older posts that I contributed back when the forum was free and I could edit old posts?
Also, @Future and @sidco have to stop hiding behind “USER MODERATED FORUM” any time there is a problem with their leadership. That’s his go to defense, and in this case it is absolutely incorrect.
And like in a dictatorship there can be revolutions. That’s stage two woe.
Okay to give a Sunday summary:
@qma wants to be able to edit old posts forever the issue with this IMO is if you decided one day u didn’t wanna be in here any more and could go back and edit all of your old post to “null” “deleted” etc. Which would be detrimental to the forum.
Some of us would like to be able to summon whole trust levels, some of us don’t. This is something right now only admins and mods can do.
On the question of user moderation… This is a perfect example of how the forum is indeed user moderated. If you have a concern you bring it out in front of everyone and we work on solutions together. That’s as community based as it gets.
the forum has never been free like that… that was an illusion.
once again… nothing is gonna change till @sidco wants it. All these forum votes go no where! He dont care what gets voted on… if he dont want it… then it says the same.
You can stage your revolution all you want. it will end up the same as occupy wall street did…
i think we should be able to edit our posts too without the change mark inside of a minute but i dont give a fuck at the end of the day. This isnt my life. this is a tool i use for business and some socializing.
The problem is that only if @sidco agrees which is like never. other than the new moderators which you werent even voted on… What has ever changed… Your a perfect example of @sidco doing what he wants… He elected you and @RedundantAlexithymia as moderators here really with no community interaction.
I agree your probably the best mod here right now…BUT no one elected you EXCEPT @sidco
I was able to edit old posts up until mid 2019. This isn’t even my first future account here.
Are you sure thats a good idea?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I can think of 2 good ways to shut down this entire forum. But why, when I still havent had an answer from our dictators @sidco and @Future. I just want personal freedom on the site named after the dude who preaches personal freedom all day.
I think for this conversation to be productive we need to consolidate the community concerns and decide exactly what it is we want, explain why the changes are more positive than negative and then go from there.
If @sidco dropped moderation nukes everytime some one asked him to we would probably be a mess.
Personally I trust that @sidco has the community in mind always and has a better view of the big picture than we do sometimes.
Like making beaker and wrench and true terpenes forum sponsors?
Great…doesnt me its free. unless your in control… Your a user. Thats it. It was an illusion of freedom
go for it… i dont give a fuck!
and im sure it would be back up faster than it took you to think of the ideas… There are no personal freedoms. This is a dictatorship. id love to see what you do. talk is cheap.
That came to a swift end when they started screwing around… Same would happen to any of us of we tried to pull the same stunts.
And I don’t think it’s right to say “hey they should have never been allowed to be vendors” no one could have seen into the future on that one
I seem to remember a 3 month long scandal with true terps and a month long scandal with beaker and wrench
it really didnt… @future flew out there… doubled down on the cut… kept them on the site and GLG… It wasnt till later that they were found to be “motor oil” or something and thats when they were dropped
And we will see this again 100% in the future. I give it 6 months before another “good vendor” is brought to the fire.
Live long enough as a hero and eventually ull become the villain
And yeah it took a few months. You can’t shame some one to death based on conjecture. It took months for OUR USERS to get tests off to the proper People
Do you think @Future should have to send off everything that’s sold here to third party testing to look for things we didn’t suspect to be there?
And yes I acknowledge that true terps pulled over a big shit blanket over all of our eyes it’s a shame and idk if anyone going to thier factory would have yielded any diff results than future going down himself
HE LITERALLY DEFENDED THEM. There was no blanket
He defended them based on evidence that was provided to him. He doesn’t have x-ray vision or mind reading
He took them at their word after a month of failed tests
i think when these problems come up… Like Vitimin E as a cut… They should be looked into… ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE A FORUM SPONSOR!
Maybe if he would have sent out some sample of the cut and had it tested after all this came out rather flying down and believing people that have lied already in the past… maybe some due diligence would have prevented that…
rather just ripping into extract ninja like he was a troll for another company…
I’m sure he also had his eyes on a swivel and I believe if there was anything there that lead him to believe the cut was anything other than what they showed it to be he would have spoken up
so all the tests here and on icmag werent enough?? it was more than one member saying this. Dont you think some independent tests would have solved that… especially if your collecting money for these people as forum sponsors… This is a bit different because they paid to be a premium vendor…
Look I have no vested interest here. I don’t get paid by future or sidco. I’m a long standing member here just like you guys.
If we want to see changes the best way to do it is to get organized and present our case.
Let’s not get lost on how every error of the past should have been handled diff. Hindsight is 20/20 but let’s use that sight to see a better future not a shitty past
