Extracting and winterizing while skipping the butane

Sure.

You have some BHO that might benefit from winterization. Pretty sure you’re not going to be impressed with the results of simply winterizing that…

@TheWillBilly’s brita trick might well change that…it’s not conceptually far from @TheLostBiologist’s tek @Akoyeh bought to your attention (might even be DE along with the AC in there…)

Below is an EHO shatter. Essentially a qwet filtered over AC/DE.

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insisting on calling winterization “practice” for QWET is not (imo) helping your understanding…but I’ll give up on that one for now.

You could certainly use it as brita practice…

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Just felt like this GEM should be quoted.

Seems to me that you shouldn’t be working with chemicals - given the kind of questions you are asking. Don’t accidentally kill yourself or someone else. You can get a stupid cheap rosin press from LowTemp - with a jack from harbor freight. Give your trim some rinses, bag it, dry it (you don’t need a freeze drier, you can use a controlled chilled environment like your fridge - it will just take longer. And then press.

Hell you don’t even have to press it - you could legit, DRY SIFT this material and have a very nice hash available for yourself. Using a very strangely worded “pollen collector” - even though its trichome you are after and not pollen. :wink:

No he is definitely not serious… because then you would need the rest of the evaporation equipment that you have already said that you don’t have.

For reals - if you are just making something fun for you and your friends. Old school hash is just fine. No need to try and get all fancy with it. And if you are going the butane route - why do you feel the need to winterize that stuff to begin with?

@cyclopath laid out all the options pretty nicely and he didn’t even chastise you for needing so many spoons just to get through this thread…

Please just don’t hurt yourself - trying all the things that everyone has mentioned. You could always make really shitty prerolls with your trim (no really!). You could always dry sift your material (get it cold and shake it through a screen).

All of these things are not really meant for doing at home - without at least knowing which side of your body your ass is on and which solvents are flammable. :wink:

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Ok, I didn’t “insist” on calling winterization practice for qwet. I called it practice for winterizing crude, because I was going to winterize the crude that I had laying around anyways. I think maybe you misunderstood me. In terms of which process I’m going to use I haven’t decided yet.

I’ve done a ton of open blasts, just never tried to dewax before, or use ethanol extraction (if that’s the direction I’m going to decide to go). I felt the need to winterize in the first place because it comes out pretty waxy. Not having a closed loop at super low temps causes that, right? Sometimes people want to buy it from me so I was trying to improve the quality if I could. Just because I’m asking questions doesn’t mean I’m an idiot.

I get what you guys are saying, if I use ethanol get it to cryo temps and I don’t have to worry about winterizing anything.

As far as the “brita”, are we sure there isn’t any use of silicone gaskets etc in those cartridges? I’ve never cut one open but that would be my concern, that something might break down.

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My crude looked pretty shit in that picture. Once I dissolved it in 190 proof everclear it turned pretty damn yellow again. 11 grams of crude, 110ml of everclear. It’s only been in my freezer for an hour and stuff is starting to separate. This is kind of cool. I’ve never done this before. And as far as why bother, people like dabs that’s why. I don’t control that, people like what they like. Yes, I know this is not ethanol extraction, this is winterizing bho. Winterizing it because I don’t have a cls and it always comes out waxy as shit. I’ll decide what to do with my trim soon enough.

Since silicone doesn’t generally dissolve or react in ethanol the only worry would be the miniscule percentage of terpenes, not saying it wont happen but think its doubtful anything would breakdown unless you left it submerged in the mixture for days or used repeatedly without replacing the gaskets, imo, always better options but the fact that a majority of etho centrifuges still use silicone tells me that ones lower on the priority list

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I use to use the inline bigger ones for fine particles when doing bulk. They were $35 ones or so meant for under the sink. Cheapest solution i could find with availability pretty much anywhere, worked like a champ for years

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Sediment filters, carbon, or both?

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The crude turned to glass after winterizing. It’s a little dark because this crude is old and had been sitting in its container for months. I’m still undecided on how to do my next run.

So you chose not to run it over activated carbon (through a brita filter)?

Yep, you want shatter, winterizing will usually get you there…it was certainly my approach back when the boss insisted on glass.

I find this to be horrendous bullshit.

If you’re washing especially, QWET Jar Washing then you’re gonna hit fats and lipids that needs post filtration.

Depends on what one calls cold and whether one keeps everything cold throughout the process or not. I have no problem making golden shatter with no winterization, even on a second soak, fifteen minutes per soak.

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Have you tried it?

I don’t disagree that cold (-40C and below) ethanol will pick up some fats/waxes, in my experience is that you’ve left enough of them behind for it not to be worth the hassle of trying to drop the ones you did pick up.

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Imo the trick is keeping everything cold for the entire time the solvent is in contact with the plant material.

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Correct. I just used my buchner funnel and a #1 filter paper with a coffee filter on top of it.

I’ve tried doing everything on top of dry ice…

You’re right about there being a negligible amount of fats and waxes picked up at minimal extraction times and cold temps.

We can both agree though that they’re still there and that the magic dirt (filter media) helps further remove them.

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It definitely improved the crude, but it’s so old there’s no flavor profile whatsoever. It’s just potent. The high was much clearer and cleaner though for sure.

4 tubes and 8 cans later and I didn’t even make a dent in my trim. Looks like a big pile of shit lol. I probably have 10 more tubes to run. I’m so tired of blasting. I have enough trim I’ll try qwet next.