100% CO2 is the silent killer. Plus high pressures and part failures are terrifying. I think it was @Killa12345 who recently had the close call with high pressure vessels. If you do not have a academic background using CO2 extractors, don’t bother. It takes real talent to make anything worthwhile, and the juice is never worth the squeeze. That is why no one uses them anymore really.
Honestly if you are looking for a safe and fun route into extract, I’d go back to the lowtemp page, browse this forum a bit, and start messing with Rosin. I’m not sure what country you are from, or the legal climate you need to work within, however Rosin is easy and fun for everyone! You can start with some flower and a hair straightener. Gradually, you can upgrade your gear and evolve your methods into making fresh frozen hash rosin, or whatever! Everyone here started somewhere, and Rosin is great for the home extractor. No chemicals, dangerous machinary, etc.
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I only have access to Cannabis itself. I cant buy distillate, unless I find a dealer which I dont really trust.
You are not wrong. A lot of distillate on the market is contaminated, cut with adulterants, or converted from CBD by minimum wage plant workers with no concern about leftover reagents and byproducts.
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So what do you suggest I do from now? Learn how to make Rosin and slowly upgrade my equipment and working space?
Would you suggest after a while I switch over to CO2 extraction instead of BHO, in a years time or so.
I got a lot of mixed opinions over on reddit about CO2 and they all told me to stick with BHO which you guys are telling me not to do.
Thanks for being helpful btw
I see. So no to CO2 aswell
Of course, happy to help! Like I said, I am unsure about your country and legal situation. This industry is rapidly evolving and home-brewers and quickly getting pushed out. In just about any legal state, it make 0 sense to make extracts at home, even for a skilled chemist with all the gear. The scale and throughput of large producers push them out economically. That leaves you with a couple options:
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Learn how to make hash rosin and master it. There is a really long journey from squishing flower to making all star hash rosin. It will take years, even a whole career to master. Don’t under estimate solventless. I’ve recently had some hash rosin that blew my mind in terms of quality.
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Study a relevant subject in formal school and get a job at a large producer to learn chemical extraction. This is a long and underpaid journey.
In the states, high quality extracts are plentiful and competition is fierce. You will need to make yourself an attractive candidate if you want a job making extracts, and that starts with building credentials/school.
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100% This is why i didnt even offer up my sales services. I know when the products i sell (Butane Extractors) are not a good fit for the person. These are deadly machines in the wrong hands. You need a certain amount of research to even begin to play with explosive gas.
Some people will say is super easy and for the most part they are correct but the second you ignore safety. It can be the second that ends your life.
I do wanna apologize to @cookiedude with the rosin and resin comment but low temp is 100% a rosin equipment company and i had no clue they would have a basic outline for hydrocarbon extraction on their website. I assumed it was all rosin and thats my bad.
Saying that… you might wanna stick with rosin or really do a few months of research. Youtube videos and other resources to understand the dangers of the other extraction methods in the industry. $5k could get you there with all used equiment working outside… but your gonna need to spend $25k worth of time researching to be able to recognize those deals when availible.
good luck!
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Would love to talk with you and share our knowledge, we don’t charge anything for consultations. We have a solid 5LB Closed Loop System that retails at 10k, and we have a 1lb closed loop that retails at 1k, or a full turnkey closed loop kit for 1LB that retails at 5k. PM Me if you are interested!
We are telling you not to start with BHO, certainly not with high end input and a propane heavy blend.
The OCO has been around for many years, and yeah, it does qualify as a “home use” CO2 rig. It almost fits in your budget too.
Meh. Not a toy, yet somehow still a toy…
…but when you hear that CO2 rigs that originally sold for $100+ k are being offered at scrap prices (link upthread), you’ve got to wonder why?
@Ganjineer710 is on point.
Edit:
Opening bid $1000…
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I had a short DM convo with cookie. I hope he doesn’t mind I share the contents of our conversation, due to the fact that we only had it via DM due to post limits placed on his new account.
A little background, @cookiedude is studying chemistry in Uni, in the UK. The UK market is very new to extracts and their legacy market does not sell extracts that are trustworthy.
In his situation, I would like to change my advice:
A) Stick with Rosin.
B) Cold Ethanol Crude to Distillate.
I think he’d probably be able to do either and get a good grasp on extraction without really endangering himself or anyone else.
@cyclopath is an excellent resource to reach out to about spinning ethanol!
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Shoooooweeee I’d scoop that for home use at that price!
But, like, I started with CO2 if you don’t count open blasting and solventless, I wouldn’t say I’m the usual sort.
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Yep. Sound advice.
I usually prefer to train folks on ethanol first too.
If you can’t figure out how to use that CLS for ethanol, you don’t understand the problem yet. Look at it again.
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Should be something useful in the books section of the data dump on ethanol. Probably nothing on squish (rosin)
Ton of info here on both.
Search around here for QWET and “salad spinner” for ethanol.
Eg start here Washing Machine "Salad Spinner" tek and don’t forget to follow the links under the first post.
Combining the two by winterizing then decarbing rosin for carts would definitely get you usable carts. Probably not commercially viable in most places.
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Thank you for your service on this thread. 
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Lol the good ole days of open blast, I am younger (22), so I wasn’t working in the industry when it was common for individual extractors to open blast, but I remember a Cop coming to my Highschool and explaining why weed extracts were dangerous due to residual butane and how everybody open blasts in their backyard, dude even showed us the aftermath of an explosion from open blasting. Industry has come a LONG way since then to say the least
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