I think you missed the part where I am not a paying for the system that needs r&d. This was a mutual business agreement we came together on that wouldn’t have been part of any sales pitch you received since this is a one off situation where we wanted to work together to benefit both my lab and luna Tech as a company by working together on this new system.
I ensure you and everyone reading that Luna has made it well worth my time and efforts to be part of their R&D process for the new skid. This also opens up a lot of opportunity to implement changes on the skid that regular customers wouldnt get the chance to implement.
12 3/8" inside diameter x 43" height inside not accounting for the curved sections.
Which after some quick volume calcs makes that 2.3x more volume in the material column vs the IO.
Yeah the Oberon gets a biomass packer and material sacks like the IO, just bigger. I already planned on it for the IO but an overhead pulley system/crane will be nice for the back and probably required on the Oberon. But im short so it takes a lot more effort for me to pull bags out vs the taller guys.
Hey so I know you said you did 300 lbs of FF in 8 hours, just wondering what the sock sizes are, and may I ask what the run times are, from introduction of gas to pour?
Socks are 8"x 36" run times vary from 45-60 minutes in my short amount of experience. But you also start your next run before you pour the current batch so the times overlap a little more in your favor.
For example I could be 35 minutes into my first run and I will get a flashing green light that tells me it is time to replace the material column and in 2-3 minutes I can start my next run. all while the first batch is still processing.
Runs are anywhere from 9kg up to 14kgs of fresh frozen. I have only been running fresh frozen so far. I’ll do some cured runs next week.
I know what you mean, same thing can be done with the MEP in a way. Thanks a ton for the info, there’s a chance I’ll be wanting to move in this direction eventually.
I 100% agree. Attention to details. We couldn’t hook up the chiller lines because their connections points were too close. Devil is in the Details, Jack.
thesk8nmidget, Luna is representing their system to not be in any way an R&D system. They represented to us the system is fully engineered and ready to rock n’ roll, but with our system you can’t even connect the chiller lines as their ports to connect the chiller lines into their skid are to close together.
That said, I think it is more than fair to provide you with an R&D system if it is represented as an R&D system. The problem comes when a company sells an “engineered” system and represents it as such, but it is not. I have no idea if that is what Luna has done, just going off my experience.
Well, I’d like to know how many Luna systems are actually out there and am not all surprised that there have been signiicant problems with their system. We have been tasked with putting together the entire extraction system. We found their “technical” people to not be qualified and I suspect that Luna is really just an assembler of products that you could easily go out and buy yourself. I do not know this for sure, of course.
As an example, the ports for the chiller lines were 1/4" to close and the lines could not be installed accept with piping modifications which is going to make a huge ice-ball in the extraction area.
So, I’d like Luna to tell us all, how many hydrcarbon extraction systems have actually been set up and work. I would not be at all surprised if that number is surprisingly low and the number of systems that have been set up and actually work per spec is next to zero. Again, I do not have first-hand knowledge of this, but would welcome a statement from Jack, the CEO to address this.
I have a similar sentiment as you. The spec sheets that were provided had the wrong information on them so our electrician wired everything up and the max amp ratings they had were if you were using 480v but the whole system is set up for 208v. So all the wire size, breakers and dissconnects for every ancillary equipment had to be redone. Now half that fault is on the electrican for just blindly following cut sheets and not using his head like there is no way this chiller is gonna work on a 40amp breaker even if the cut sheets say so.