Edibles not working on some people

There is two answers (I’m aware of) that have been medically proven to exist as a “problem”.

Both are genetic and related to metabolic factors.

This write-up covers them both:

Gastrointestinal disorders and cannabis

When someone says “edibles don’t really work for me,” my first question is whether they have a gastrointestinal issue. Inflammatory Bowel Disease, malabsorption syndrome, and Irritable Bowel Syndrome can affect how the small intestine absorbs nutrients, water, and medicine.

In my experience, the vast majority of folks who don’t feel effects from edibles confirm that their body also has trouble digesting food. After following up with the author of this month’s question, I was able to rule out that simple explanation — leading me to a more complex potential explanation.

Slow metabolizers versus rapid metabolizers

Cytochrome P450 enzymes, sometimes called CYP (“sip”) enzymes, help your liver kickstart the metabolization of most drugs. While there are over 50 CYP enzymes, six of them do the bulk of the work, often tag-teaming to get the job done.

Each CYP enzyme correlates to a specific gene that acts as a book of instructions, telling your body how to construct the enzyme step-by-step. Every gene presents a number of possible different versions known as alleles. The most common allele carried by most people is known as the “wild type.” If you inherit the wild-type allele from both parents, your body will metabolize drugs as expected.

If a parent passes on a less-common “variant” allele, that gene will usually encode enzymes that don’t work as well, meaning you’ll metabolize drugs a little slower. This diminished enzyme efficacy means you’ll be a slow metabolizer.

According to the website for Lobo Genetics, a company that offers genetic testing for cannabis users, “These ‘slow metabolizers’ should be more cautious when consuming THC, as they will likely experience an increased duration and intensity of intoxication, especially when taking THC in oral form.” Slow metabolizers could accumulate levels of THC up to 300% higher than those with standard metabolisms, leading to unpleasant consequences from over-intoxication.

Here’s where things get interesting. If you inherit multiple copies of the wild-type allele — that’s the most common, “normal” version of the gene, usually resulting in a healthy drug metabolism — your system will be too good at clearing drugs from your bloodstream. As an ultrarapid metabolizer, you may not even have a chance to feel the desired effects of THC before it’s converted into an inactive metabolite.

Dr. Staci Gruber, director of Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) at McLean Hospital, recently explained the phenomenon to the Boston Globe. “You’re breaking it down so fast it doesn’t have an opportunity to create the psychoactive effect,” she told Globe staff, adding that variables like how quickly your body absorbs fat also plays a role.

CYP2C9 and CYP2C19, the two genes most associated with the metabolism of cannabis, each have over 30 variants in addition to the standard wild type. “For THC and the CYP2C9 metabolism gene, there is no ultrarapid metabolizer genotype; only normal and slow metabolizers,” a representative from Lobo Genetics told me. “For … the CYP2C19 metabolism gene, there are both ultrarapid metabolizers (CYP2C19#17) and slow metabolizers (CYP2C19#2,#3).”

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If there’s only 2 possible causes then there is even less reason to do generic testing, I’ll just try both potential solutions to both problems

This was a very interesting read. TY.
For OP @HowToWeed , I have not skimmed the companies listed thus far, but just a heads up, the gov. has seized everyones DNA results from the big testers like ancestry and stuff. I’d see no reason why they haven’t couped every DNA testing lab worth a salts data by now.
Not that that’s something you have to worry about… But just a heads up anyway, case… Cheers

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Yes that’s why I don’t pay for my dna to be collected, they will have to pay me if they want it.

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I mean, we carry cellphones around, so they got us anyway. But yeah, if I don’t HAVE to give them my straight up DNA, I don’t either. lol. Even tho I love the scientific side of it and wish I didn’t have to worry about fascist gov overreach for nefarious purposes like that so I and everyone else could safely participate x.x; But yeah, just didn’t see anyone mention that so figured I would.

Just started taking a shit and catching up. Happy Monday!

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@HowToWeed and @WKUCONSULTING should do a video together.

That would be the stupidest thing on fucking boobtube and I’d love the shit out of it.

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Coincidentally we spoke earlier this week about doing a collab and I plan on doing one regardless of your guys opinion on him.

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y’all gonna do some open blasting? looking forward to the rap vids

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@pdxcanna
Mmmmmm. Yummy rubber plunger in my… whatever that is

Assholes like you who judge people who cannot get quality concentrates is exactly why I make my channel.

So privileged you are.

If it can inject morphine into my stomach it can inject some oil into my carts. It’s a medical grade syringe, once again y’all are just being privileged.

I grew up in the blackest of markets, I would never give that to someone in a cart

Flower rosin would be better than that trash

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You saw it being made, nothing wrong with it other than it’s color.

I don’t always use the freshest or best flower cause people can’t always source that, you grew up in a black market with lots of quality options it seems, others don’t.

You just look like a privileged asshole, or are you trying to appear as a dickish snob? Whats your end goal?

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You’re canadian right?

If you feel the flower is solely to blame, i can donate some.

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What I mean is I purposefully use older flower to get darker oil for videos sometimes.

Although I could use some help getting super fresh flower to make quality rosin for videos. I can find good stuff but never fresh and moist enough for rosin for my liking.

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Btw eyeworm doesn’t sell 11-hydroxyl he has other kinds but not that, does anyone know anyone actually selling the stuff?

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I grew up with shitty mexican brick and whatever cali exports trickled in for 60 bucks an eighth

I never had anyone try and sell me unpurged RSO with botanical terps in a cart, that’s fucking gross

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Do you even know what rso is? I didn’t use heat to mix it or to evaporate it, it was vacuum purged with the machine at low temp.

Also no one is trying to sell anything, this is an option for people to make their own if that’s all they can source.

And I bet your ass you would have smoked this shit and loved it when you only had your bush weed. So what is your actual point? You hate poor people?

I’ve yet to find anyone from F42k to sample my flower as most users here are American.

Would be cool to see someone else extract it other than myself.

I have fresh frozen and dry flower from this years harvest, 7 different strains.

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