@Dr_Jebril Lab Review

I’d agree with you. But when our rudimentary formula is 10% from Kaycha and was tested in march and our newer formula is 100x better and just got tested by Jebril, I am going to assume the USA labs are :wastebasket: in comparison. TBH I only posted to help people out on where to allocate their money.

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“100x better” formula? By what metrics? Didn’t Dr. Jebril test it at ~10%?

ur wild! if you’re taking that literally then I’m wrong, obvi :joy:

Jesus christ dude. I was never a nursing major, I was one of 2 people admitted into a neuroscience PhD program in 2015 at your supposed university–feel free to go and speak to the head of the dept, Dr Greenwood, or the CEO of OMRF instead of doxxing people you don’t know or do business with on the forum.

I don’t even know what the point is. You doxxed someone else but really doxxed me, and now are doubling down on whatever bullshit instead of apologizing, calling me a nursing major, as if that would be a bad thing in the first place, and responding to comments in ways that I wish you knew half as much as the people I know that work at Mercy, OUHSC, and Integris. So much for oklahomies man. Feel free to whip your bullshit with outlandish claims and cut other people down in the process ya fuckin chad

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@chempistry I’m sorry, we good?

That doesn’t make sense but I’m open to learning about what you’re talking about. Not sure how it would be different in your application since it’s still a colloid.

Zeta potential in the literature is always reported as either being high positive or negative charge. Usually a zeta potential of -30 or greater is considered stable.

@munkdooligan

EDIT: I don’t use this forum to do my thinking or RnD. We take our shots methodically, and follow through accordingly. Hopefully that answers your questions and people on here can appreciate the respect for scientific endeavor our company has.

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Ok that makes sense. Kinda the same deal with using hydrocolloids for your emulsions, like gum Arabic and starches. They aren’t charged, but have stability due to sterics.

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Has this been tested by a third lab? Why is the test with the higher value the accurate result?

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@bigbone Jebril literally ran 4-7 tests and still has 8mL of our sample left. Every single test was 10% take it to PM if you care to ask him. I just wanted to help the forum on reputable labs and allocating their money

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I am not questioning Dr. Jebril. He has shared some really good data with the community. However, 4-7 tests that all come back 10% indicates good precision. It speaks nothing to the accuracy of the result.

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@bigbone accurate enough? Two different solvents, two series of tests with more coming. I hope that suffices

Spinning for 60 minutes in ethanol or acetone is more than likely going to provide full extraction. If an instrument method lacks accuracy but has good precision you will get the same result every time. Doesn’t mean it is an accurate result.
I am just curious why you are taking this value to be the accurate value.

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@bigbone I know the product with the supporting data… I have more data, loads of it, I just don’t care to keep replying honestly man. I’ve provided enough and wanted to give a lab review, thx for the questions. If you want to burn $100+ for me and get “accuracy” so you can trust the product be my guest.

Yes 60 minutes is far enough with this product.
It dissolves in a few minutes.

You are right it should be counter tested in more different labs (you? @kcalabs?) to better judge on the accuracy of this results.
I guess @ClearScience considers them good because exactly 10% CBD was used in their recipe. It would be consistent, but still needs other evidences.

Honestly I was quite surprised to find that much CBD inside.
It is only the second series of sample of this type that I look at, so far. The other I had before were not that stable and that concentrated. This is at part the reason why I took a bit of time between the reception of sample and the analysis showed here. I did a first series of tests to check which solvent would work, what sample concentration to use, and which GC method would fit… I noticed that the sample aspect stored in the fridge did not change at all, so I was confident taking more days to test it.

Now I’m really interested in monitoring its stability over extended period of time, like analyzing it every 2-3 weeks… :face_with_monocle:

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I was questioning exactly what you pointed out. This was considered the “right” answer because it is what the customer wanted to hear.

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Well on my side, I consider it right as well, because it comes from me. :crazy_face:

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I think it’s considered the “right” answer because it matches the formulation of the batch based on previous testing of base ingredient🤔

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Very true, but there are many that struggle with formulation.

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Indeed. Formulations & science!

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