could be sesquiterpenes or triterpenes. they tend to reak of rubber or nasty ass fish guts
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So you think it wouldent really be possible to do with just a vacuum oven?
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LLE with ethanol and water will absolutely not work at all. How would you expect layers of ethanol to form with another layer of water? They are miscible.
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Yea i have no idea about that anyways, lmk if u have any info for me
@replxce what are you using the disty for? Carts, Eds or ?
If it’s not too strong of a smell you can mask it in edibles. Ime, adding terps just makes it worse.
If you were going the cart route I’d have the lab replace the kgs with a pleasant smelling and tasting disty.
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which at a min means heating up to 150C and pulling down below 50um imo.
which you don’t have the capability to do right now.
a vac oven is not the right tool for the job, but could probably be used to achieve those parameters.
a vacuum CHAMBER (BVV style) is cheaper than a oven by a long shot, and using a double boiler you could manage a stable 100C without any need for fancy temp control.
sucking on that with a $99 harbor freight pump for an hr or twelve might get you somewhere.
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This may help with some basic steps to get you going down a rabbit hole of purification steps.
•prep amount of oil desired to wash & heat till has loose viscosity, so you can homogenize with solvent for lle.
•dilute oil : solvent (heptane) at 1:2 or 1:3 ratio oil : solvent
Ratios for lle wash will be 1:1 or 1:2.
Solvent/oil : water wash/base
(Use DISTILLED WATER) washes consist of 15 min agitation, then 45 minutes of still separation to discard of aqueous layer.
- [ ] Use sodium bicarbonate, wash 1-2 times, allow the emulsion to fully seperate then discard of the aqueous layer. (use ph of 7-8.9).
- [ ] Agitate for 15 min then allow 45 min to separate. Discard aqueous layer each time after lle wash then proceed with next wash step.
- [ ] Water wash with 1-2 washes of brine to remove remaining emulsion.(5%salt water)
- [ ] Agitate for 15 min then allow 45 min to separate. Discard aqueous layer each time after lle wash then proceed with next wash step.
- [ ] Run regular DISTILLED WATER WASH 2-3 times till all acidic compounds are eluted & removed in the water layer. (Ph water at 5.5-6ph upon discard of aqueous layer to ensure your organic layer ph has been balanced out).
- [ ] Agitate for 15 min then allow 45 min to separate. Discard aqueous layer each time after lle wash then proceed with next wash step.
- [ ] If your organic layer has a visible clarity through it (no impurities floating or visible) you have properly seperated & may begin to discard of water later & collecting organic layer.
- [ ] Start discarding of the last aqueous layer slowly & with a inlet valve open as to not disturb your clean organic layer upon discarding the final wash aqueous layer.
- [ ] Allow a little oil to flow through so the water on the bottom goes with it to ensure a MAJORITY of your moisture content is gone.
- [ ] Once organic layer is settled, collect & remove remove organic layer in a beaker/flask you can apply the next step with.
- [ ] Then use sodium sulfate at 5-10g 1-2 times & filter over 25um filter to remove solids from solution.
- [ ] Once filtrate is collected, ensure no particulates or moisture is present (can observe water on bottom of collection flask if present) & then roto solvent off to recover oil from solvent then will still need to be distilled via spd or wiper.
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you can absolutely water wash distillate with nothing more than a microwave on hand…
I don’t recall if I tried this “before & after”. before was definitely nasty.
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kind of missed the nail on this one… no explanation on solvent to be used in your steps or how to even prep your product for the LLE.
This guys also said:
So i doubt LLE is an option especially when your how to ends with distill
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I was just adding some simple steps here do the op to look into if they wanted too. Thank you for catching the no specification of solvent as well more so focused on other steps & other corrections. , was trying to type all this out while building a puzzle with my daughter so completely spaced that & had it in mind when I started typing. Again thank you for catching that slip.
I figured they didn’t have the options for it as I did read , but didn’t want to op the option of a vac oven as said by @cyclopath
But it did make me chuckle as it still was posted about & im sure we’ve all done it a time or two with a oven when in a pinch.
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Yes vacuum chamber is what i meant
at least an order of magnitude difference in price. combining the two tek mentioned above (water wash, then vac at 100C) is probably your best bet.
understand that shaking a canning jar with near boiling water and distillate in it can be life changing if done wrong.
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i knew he couldnt use heptane because he didnt have a way of recovery nor distillation. was thinking if he swung the ph of the aqueous layer he could pull shit from the organic mix and drain then recover the distillate with a hot plate or water bath and a jar outside or something.
How would he have an organic layer and an aqueous layer with ethanol as the solvent though?
i was under the impression (i’ve never used ethanol for LLE ) that you could salt it out enough to make them immiscible. someone told me potassium carbonate or other forms of salt could achieve this.
OP, if you can, try to exchange this from the source for something you can use. If that’s not possible, can you use it in edibles?
All this advice for DIY equipmentless remediation just sounds unwieldy.
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Can I recommend you not suggest things you haven’t done or understand before? Not trying to hate but misleading readers into thinking they could fix something with a process you havent done before is or understand well enough to give advice is setting people up for failure.
Yeah technically you can do it but its going to be a more advanced than a standard LLE and i dont think the OP is up for it or even a standard LLE.
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I’m surprised no one has suggested filtering hot over a small amount of carbon.
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burnt Terps. another pass through a short path would help, but I know you said you dont have one.
Vac oven turned up to like 200F maybe? Never done that myself but I think that, another pass in the short path, or some sort of LLE are probably your only options.