Only to the trained eye @Kingofthekush420 , it took me months to develop the right methods and comprehension of the HPLC/DAD to be able to differentiate the 2 cannabinoids. And it took GCMS and NMR testing and comparison to confirm my methods on HPLC/DAD were valid.
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Given an āambiguousā HPLC-DAD, GC-FID should get you close with a CBC (and probably THCV based on the guess my GC made) standard.
It will certainly be good enough to backup claims of ābullshit! That is not CBC!ā
Wonder if the portable FTIR could be trained to āseeā it?
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given the retention time I saw on an SRI 8610C, I suspect it will be resolvable on the SRI-420 I picked up.
Once I have a home setup for that thing Iāll have to hit you up for a sample.
Mary made some delta nine,
and took it to her guy.
He turned it into delta 10,
and now she canāt get high.
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Mary was sad,
But her guy had the answer,
āItās not as psychoactive,
But it could cure cancer.ā
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So can you please clarify something. Everyone this thread has been identifying CBC with d10. But when I asked earlier in the thread I was told what you produced was d10a. Which one is it? Is the title wrong?
Delta 10, not delta 10a.
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We kept seeing CBC spikes when running short path even when the crude didnāt show any. Now that we are running a wiped film the levels are way lower but still present from the decarb. My understanding is that itās THC deteriorating to CBN and just not completing the process.
Crude oil
After SPD
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Residence time mattersā¦a lot.
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I wonder if thatās what happened Here to this sample using iodine as a catalyst for CBN? @Shadownaught
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That āCBCā peak is Delta 10. Iām 99% positive. Just another case of mistaken cannabinoid identity.
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@coppertop Iām not sure if that is what is happening in that CBD distillate scenario, good theory though. I havenāt worked with enough CBD material to provide an accurate opinion yet. Definitely interested and if I Had access to samples Iād be happy to run comparative analysis to identify if itās Delta 10 or truly CBC.
Seems like heat and time will create unidentified products even without a catalyst.
I wonder if these unidentified products are actually just d10
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Yeah with 58% d8 I absolutely stand by my assertion that the cbc peak is not CBC at all, its Detla 10, like has been the case on dozens of my consults. Id put money on that.
just look at the molecule, its such a thermodynamically uphill battle to rip open thc to cbc, the whole point of the synthesis is the enzymes ciclyzing cbga into the downstream products. until your lab has a d10 standard, the point is moot
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Would Cerilliant be the best folks to work with on that?
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check it out, CBG has one ring structure, CBC has 2, THC has three. The enzymes latch onto the carboxyllic group and close those ring structures. You just cant go backwards Every piece of evidence Ive ever seen asserts that. Prove me wrong and ill happily eat my words as I start pumping out kilos of CBC isolate.
A simple acid or media in the flask could easily push thc down its lower energy state gradient, or maybe up a little hill to get to d10, but to think that it could get pushed all the way back up to cbc, thats far fetched as far as I can tell
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you can get delta8 in flower just wont ever break 1%
Mechoulam reports that d8 and d10a are these thermodynamic wells for THC. I HIGHLY recommend anyone interested in these transformations read everything Mechoulam et al published starting in the 60s.
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