UPDATE* the batch of sugar is forming into larger stones but still tiny. the other jar that was soup I added 15% terps so 56g to 8.4ml *from from a vacuum distillation run of White Widow I did last night. and mixed it together, thinking my material degraded and lost terps from light, oxygen and rough handling etc. so then I mixed it into the solution then capped and set on a hot plate at 80f and watched the jar pressure up. overnight I see super tiny clear rocks on the bottom, hopefully they are diamonds. but the solution is thick like raw honey, should I add more tane to this batch and see if that improves the crystallization? Thanks to everyone who helps! fell free to DM me and tell me what Iām doing wrong thanks again
the desired thickness is based on THCA content in the extract.
if you starting extract has a lower THCA content, youāll want a thicker solution to make diamonds
if your starting extract has a high THCA content, youāll want a thinner solution to make diamonds
in general, a good crystallization will start thin (because you used good extract), then it will begin to crystallize, and the solution will get thicker as the solvent evaporates. At the same time, THCA is crystallizing also, which makes the solution thinner. So you have to balance these two effects. This is akin to the metastable crystallization window; the longer you keep your solution in this zone, the larger/higher yielding your crystals/crystallization will be.
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Here is what each jar is like on its 7th day. The first one had 4 days in a sub zero freezer. And the dark one with nothing didnāt get sub zero and is on its 7th day Are my saturation levels good enough? Itās like warm honey in the jar with no crystallization, and itās more viscous in the jar with the sugar but no large stones. I donāt know why itās forming small crystals and not bigger stones. Iām also tempted to open the jar with the small crystals and pour it and purged them, a customer need itās soon. Thanks again. Is the darker jar in need of more solvent? Or vice versa ?
Can you define āmetastable zoneā or āOstwald ripeningā?
Being able to do so will up your game.
Right now you appear to be flailing around without an understanding of the critical concepts.
You can get from A to B in this manner, but itās not the most efficient routeā¦
This 30min presentation might helpā¦
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I havenāt found a solid metastable zone, I have the jar temp at 85F on both jars with a swing up to 90F, the saturation ratio is about is probably around 3:1 oil to solvent on the small sugared jar. and prolly 4:1 on the darker jar. all was done using a closed loop system all sub zero. at a ratio of 5lbs of solvent to a pound, yes I know thatās bad and leaving stuff behind, I changed that, thatās just what I did on this last run recovered to 0psi it was a soupy mix like warm molasses then I poured into jars and I let them sit till 50% of the mason jars were reduced leaving me with headspace, then I cap and slowly warm it up to 85-90F.
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Thank you I understand now, the sweet spots takes a variable of factors to achieve. Iām using every source I can to create my own, thank you so much!!
The last picture looks right to me. It will start as small sand-like rocks and will grow if the concentration is correct.
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37c in vac oven ( no vacuum just heat ) for 2 days after i did a cold crash to increase nucleation then i popped the jar in the oven 2 days ago! iām excited to watch these babies grow
MAKE MY MONSTER GROW!
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Okay awesome! I pulled the jar that basically looked like sauce after I saw no more froth happening. In the jar that youāre talking about the crystals are finally starting to form their crystalline structure! Is there any tips you would suggest to help further speed it along? Again THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!!! Love yāall!
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Awesome! Thatās what I did to my sauce/sugar batch and they bloomed overnight!. Then grew too about half the size of the total volume in the jar!
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Donāt touch em! Just leave it for a few weeks.
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Fucking get it!!! Badass, man!! Nothing better than setting goals and fucking destroying them!!!
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i wish i had a CLS so i could blast with a butane prop blend but as of now i just have access to ethanol and c02. so i use heptane as my solvent. i would have a much easier time getting shit to rock up for sure.
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So that would be etoh you have in there currently or tane?
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heptane
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was 3:1 but now i have no clueā¦ just gonna let em grow. separate, wash, then purge both probably in a week or so ? who knows how long the facets will take to finish out
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Looking good as theyāre going, I was going To suggest heptane or pentane as I read you last response wrong, but as you use heptane that makes sense of course.
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Here is jar 1 that failed. itās a sauce with microcrystalline structure. Not too bad for first attempt right? My other jars are slowly starting to rock up. Iāll post pics in a few min of them.!
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Not bad at all imo, if you ever sugar out and wanna keep growing then, just resaturate your jar/ miner then go back to supersaturation ratios & back to business.
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Oh shit never thought of that! Thank bro! I finally found my decent supersatiation ratios and my metastable zone for optimal growth. Took some time and a LOT of forums and threads! Thanks to you guys I have a SOP that is being tweaked constantly until itās perfect then, I can share it to all of you!
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