@pangea hey I’m new here just created an account today! read a lot of SOPs on how to make diamonds and I love it !! been in the industry for 5 years now and I am venturing into extracts, LST is there a best in depth SOP about diamond crashing with cured material and how to get a high yield using jar tek. I have been experimenting for months now with diff ratios of solutions and the best I ended up with is just sauce or a sugar sized small grains in small amounts. I have tried almost every suggestion I’ve read but I’m clearly doing something wrong or missing a step.
I have a 1lb closed loop system with a dewaxing sleeve that’s filled with dry ice/iso and material is pre chilled along with the butane. I use a 2.5 lb of tane to 1lb of biomass, recover up to 0 on the gauge and
fill mason jars then freeze for 24hrs let sit at room temp for 30 min then seed the jar cap it and burp it on a 108 degree hotplate. and I wait for and wait for weeks for something to grow but it never blooms, and no the seed doesn’t get swallowed, its there just nothing forming on or off it, if its like sugar its the seed disintegrates slightly but not all the way. anyways could you help point me in the right direction? any help is GREATLY appreciated. I will give back to the community in any way I can and any helpful tips and tricks I know or learn will be shared, along with mistakes! love you guys this is a great community much respect to all of you!!
Most useful tool is potency testing. Submit your oil, get your THCA and THC potencies. If your extract comes out at >5% THC and/or <75% THCA, try running newer/better input material. Hell, test your biomass first and don’t extract anything that has a ratio of 15:1 THCA:THC or lower. Also, you have to ensure your solution is fluid enough for molecular motion to occur, but not too dilute that your THCA concentration drops below 50%. Between 2:1 and 3:1 oil to solvent mass is a good start. Should be a little thicker than a full bodied red wine. Everything else seems like you’re doing things right.
What PolyC said.
First thing that stands out is you’ve mentioned using cured material. Do you have any cannabinoid analysis info on the material?
If your material decarb ratio is too high then you will have a hard time crystallizing the remaining thca.Another standout is your 108f temp is quite high, which will increase decarb rate and depending on your saturation rate and viscosity could put you out of the zones of growth. Your 24h initial freeze could be promoting nucleation, and making growing larger harder.
Make sure your material is suited to crystallization with the proper thca:thc ratio, try not freezing for 24h, just add a seed and leave it at room temp or slightly elevated. Your trying to find the proper saturation zone which is a combo of solvent(residual tane and terps) and temperature, adjust those two parameters to find it, not too thick and not too thin, dont leave enough butane to blow your lids off, be extremely mindful of the hazards.
You can get practice by isolating thca and using pentane to re-x, to better understand the relationships of saturation rates and growth, or you can use water and sugar or table salt for practice as well.
Also 1Lb material to 2.5Lbs butane is quite a low ratio, make sure that you’re not leaving much behind!
okay thank you ill send it off to my lab for testing! ill let you know what it comes back at! i was going at a 4:1 oil solvent in jar then in the ones that sugared up was a 3:1 ratio of oil to solvent i think the other was too thick.
you guys are the best! seriously I’ve been wasting great material but that’s the name of the game right live and learn and the one thing I haven’t tried is adjusting the parameters I have been locked in to one sop. ill start right now on lowering the temp and checking saturation levels in all jars and recording data and seeing if anything blooms at different temps and ratios. thank you so much. and the most recent batch was 31.56mg thca and 31.16% THC, that’s seems like it should be good right? and I wont freeze anymore and go from there, is there any other tweaks you would recommend I try for statistics. again much love and thank you!
no. but it also doesn’t make sense.
please check and confirm.
351.56mg
thats what i was sent the batch tested at 31%
that at least makes sense.
it won’t make diamonds.
unless that’s your INPUT.
in which case I suspect the lab is inflating numbers.
okay thank you, can you help explain why and what material is best suited?
wouldn’t doubt they are rounding up!
that is the % of the flower I put in to start the extraction not the concentration %
so that IS your input?
35% THCA might possibly be the best bud in the bag. no way everything in the bag is at 35% THCA
35% THCA and 31% THC on a extract means you’ve decarbed 1/2 of it.
edit: gotcha. so input is ok. now prove you haven’t (or have) wrecked it by holding too long at too high a temp.
Is this the proof you talking about? Or do you need something else?
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Top 2 pics are of the one that hasn’t even formed a crystal
Bottom 3 are of that sugar I’m talking about
you need to wait till the files finish uploading before hitting post. it’s also possible that by uploading too many pictures at once, the server simply timed out.
unlikely. unless one of those is 3rd party analytics.
I mean analytical testing on your jars that have been on heat for however many days.
i don’t need it. you do. 
I’m doing that right now taking notes on saturation levels psi temp ambient temp and much more, in a few mins I’ll upload it to show you
Solvent to material ratio should be closer to 10:1. 2.5:1 could be leaving goodies on the table. Also temp is not as important as the psi being around 15. I am a novice but have had success almost every time getting some rocks. Some runs are stubborn and require incrementally raising the heat by 3-5 degrees from room temp, but that is to get close to that 15psi. Same for burping. 15 psi or close to it. Find the sweet spot. Too much solvent and you pop the lid. Not supersaturated enough and you get a puddle for weeks and no rocks.
To avoid confusion, Buffalkill is referring to solvent:biomass ratio during the extraction, not oil:solvent ratio in the crystallization.
Thank you! I’ll post pics in a few of what they look like after the tweaks y’all helped me with!