No loss of potency whatsoever. It just takes the clone a while to revert back to vegetative growth ( 2 weeks to a month or two). If your ever in the unfortunate position where you need to take a clone from a plant already in flower I would avoid the humidity dome style of cloni g, and just directly mist the clones with a spray bottle 1_2x a day. The humidity dome has led to the clone rotting down to a slimy mess more often then the direct spraying method for me. And if you really want to preserve the genetic make sure to take more clones then you need, can have a high failure rate.
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Yeah, I keep the moms on 18/6 so the babies keep the schedule to avoid slow down thru flower.
Humidity domes are only needed for RW, root riot plugs, or coco pucks. A dome is never needed for aero/hydro style cloning.
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Domes are never needed if VPD is in check
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I have never used domes. Part of the variation in peopleās techniques has to do with ambient humidity in their environment.
Only recently did someone show me a vpd chart. That certainly explains why houseplants brought indoors to overwinter will dry up and die. Electric heat in particular makes air very dry.
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I used vdp religiously for 2 yrs. Dropped it and havent looked back. Itās never below 60rh even in winter, and never above 65%.
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I place the cutting in a double solo cup filled with coco(outer cup colored 16 oz cup, inner cup clear 24 oz cup so I can check for root development) with a clear plastic cup acting as a dome on top. Within 2_3 days I can take the dome solo cup off as the clone can survive on itās own (a half hour test with the dome cup off will determine if plants ready to get rid of the dome. If the clone is wilted after a half hour it needs another day or so under the dome cup. I prefer putting the clone straight in the cup as I can grow it to a teen and transplant it right to a 3_5_10 gallon pot of whatever, the process streamlines my work flow minimizes the amount of times I need to transplant. Another perk is I can take a few clones at a time and not have to take enough for a whole tray or aero cloner run
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That reminds me of grafting tomatoes, which is a serious pia and I can almost do without killing them.
From what I read just now, cannabis may be grafted. Multiple strains on a single plant are possible, for growers with legal restrictions on plant numbers. If one had a strain that was a poor producer of great bud, it would seem like grafting onto hemp might be worthwhile to increase yield.
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You absolutely can graft cannabis. Multiple strains grafted to 1 plant. Pick and label each branch accordingly.
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Where is a grafting sop when I need one lol
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Theres one on icmag I think
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The other application is grafting a flowering branch on a veg plant to induce flowering. Cool as shit but wildly impractical lol
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This is/was how growers kept plant count numbers in check. Pick a healthy mom, graft 1 strain of choice to said branch. Label. Repeat as desired. Continue to grow mom out carrying all strains.
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Rapid rooters and rooting hormone have been working well for me
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I knew a bonzai dude that had a maple tree that would rainbow when the leaves changed cuz it was three or four kinds grafted, I thought it was awesome.
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Isnāt it great. I found the sweet spot by struggling to keep the humidity at bay from my rdwc. Now 60-65% is my go to
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This thread is making me want to dig out my 10+ year stored hard driveā¦
My biggest suggestion is to haveā¦A WHOLE LOT of extra clones than neededā¦20 to 1ā¦only plant #2 size/strength pencil STALKS with monster roots.
Coco cubesā¦is what I was usingā¦good but a pain in the assā¦every other day had to seperat the roots via index finger in the insert traysā¦airoponics would be so much more convenient, but would require more space.
Clones from clones will eventually yield #2 sized pencile STALKSā¦I would keep clones in clone environment for 8 to 16 weeks untill #2 or trash.
Edit NO NEED FOR MOTHERS
I would ASSume that over cloning is a given. I have found that when it comes to cloning you pretty much get what you put inā¦ put is a weak ass cutting and get a weak ass start
When I over clone I usually hold back one or two from the production line to use as Mothers. This makes the practice of pruning to be focused on the flower production instead of cloning.
All probably just a matter of personal preference derived from past trial and error
When I ran a hydro store people thought cloning was magic. You say a magical incantation and do the secret hand signal and you get roots. They donāt see problems when blasting a cloner with a 1000w HPS or EZ-Cloner growing pythium in 90 degree heat.
I donāt care for the maintenance on aero cloners personally. I soak 1.5" rockwool blocks in 1ml/gallon AGT-50 and a sprinkle of MYKOS overnight. Azos is their N fixing, rooting powder, but I prefer a quick swish in some Dip N Grow for the auxins. Throw them under a dome and forget about them for a couple weeks. Iāve had 95%+ strike rate like that.
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