im currently trying to put butane into my recovery tank so i can do a run i have the recovery tank i have my cans and i have a can tapper from bvv
i first took the nitrogen out then i vacced down for 20 mins
i started first with some cans out of the freezer and my tank was at room temp poped my first can all went well
poped second can herd it start sucking walked off 30 mins later i come back and the can was completely full still
at this point i started questioning what i was doing drove around looked for some dry ice thinking maybe my tank needs to be cold and my tane hot so i got my recovery tank in a chest of ice for like the last 4 hours but then my tane was cold because it was night time
so now im heating my tane up with hot water then poping it in the can pop thingy from bvv
at first it started sucking really fast the hot butane into the recovery tank but after 15 seconds the tane stoped flowing and now its just stuck
how the hell do i get the whole can to flow into it im three cans deep one can actually made it into the recovery the other two cans put in the first 25 percent then just completely stopped
cans room temp, tank chilled. regular ice will work for this. the idea is a thermal transfer from a warm spot to a cold spot. not much way to speed this up. if your can tap is sealed properly and not leaking you could dip the cans in warm water to help the thermal transfer
can i fill my 25 tank to 25 lbs or can i only fill it to 70 percent im reading a bunch of mixxed comments throughout the internet ?? and its confusing so is it 70 percent fill or 100 percent im hoping you guys say 100 percent
no its actually cheaper but this shit is time and its sketchy dealing with all these cans because when i do take the can out of the popper a lil tane flys out the can and into atmosphere. and honestly im not about that life so i may need to get a tank soon this was my first shot in the dark so im getting the hang of it i will do some shitty runs since im new here i have some shit trim and some shit cans
im going to do some practice runs before i pull my real bud out and go buy a tank from oss of some 70 30 n tane
as long as you arent actively heating the water you are using you should be fine. like fill up a bucket in the bath tub of the hottest water it will put out, take that outside and then start. if you are really sketched out you can grease the needle on the can tap to ensure easy puncture/proper seal. i wouldnt heat the cans before puncturing, but dipping in hot water will help alot to flush the cans into your tank. they recommend 80% on tanks, so your #25 should be around 19.5 ish, you could push it to 20lbs but i wouldnt just to be on the safe side. i used top mine off @ 19.5
I think @GroovyOctopusLabs thought you were using a closed loop cause you made a thread about one the other day and said you had purchased one.
Recovery tank buried in dry ice…under full vac…remove valve stem from tapper. tap cans into buried tank. Shoot 6 cans in at a time. Wait 10 mins for the gas to condense and repeat. Shouldnt take more than an hour to fill 25lbs. You will still need to distill this gas…
IF YOU DO HAVE A CLOSED LOOP: this process is much faster shooting into the collection tank…then recovering at 80F which now your gas is distilled too…Easy peasy.
you had a homie helping you pick out the closed loop parts…where is he now?? im sure if they can help pick out a system…they can help you with your initial extraction runs. No?
you said you were loading your “recovery” tank. suggesting a plan to “recover” your solvent. Which implies a “closed loop system”, so while you may never have said “closed” anything, those of us reading along at home certainly got those words.
I’m curious where the nitrogen is coming from? I suspect you mean “atmosphere”, which is pretty high in nitrogen…but it’s the O2 you need concerned with.
glad you figured out that to move the liquid, you need the hole in the can to be IN liquid, AND that your liquid (or gas) will move from high pressure to low pressure. Concerned that you started this endeavour without a firm grasp on either.
being concerned about removing the N2 (rather than O2) also suggests a potentially lethal lack of understanding.
I’m guessing he bought a #25lb yellow hvac tank. They come pre filled with nitrogen.
Still, reading your question made me a little nervous. I would be happy to walk you through a run on the phone or something. Sounds like you need a little more help before you’re in business. Just happy to keep someone safe
got my first run in everything went to plan but i did do the stupid butane can thing again but on the tank this time it started flowing into coumn for first three mins then stopped i sat there for 10 mins scratching my head then i took the tank off the ground outt of the cooler and i put it on my roof upside down then booooom my stuff started coming out
i had so much oil coming out the system i had to stop before i was done with my run because i had so much solvent
There is a lot that can be learned from reading, but there is nothing quite like being mentored.
@Einstein: you might also check to see if there are classes on the subject in your neck of the woods.
I was on my second CLS when I attended @EloquentSolution’s hydrocarbon extraction class once upon a time. Mix was 50:50 noob vs “been doing this for a while”. Made some great contacts and learned some stuff. Well worth the price of admission.