I kinda answered this question with some of my previous comments but the reason they dont “work” is because cannabinoids dont readily penetrate the skin’s cells. In order to get them to absorb and penetrate into the bloodstream you’re going to need to encapsulate them with something that will. The encapsulation breaks and the cannabinoids are delivered into the body. Make sense? I just woke up from a nap and can explain further if need be.
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Cannabinoid bath bombs are a waste of time and material. The stuff will LITERALLY go straight down the drain!
Not saying bath bombs are great, and someone already said that.
But your comment reminds me of the age old argument that joints are a waste of bud because when your not taking a hit all the smoke is going up into the air. lol.
So you’re basically just looking for comments saying that bath bombs are awesome, right? Sorry to have bothered you then.
I don’t think he is looking for comments that say they are great or shit. He was more looking for information on if they work or if they are a waste of time. Which has been answered. No need to get salty fam we are all in this together. #RonaSzn
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It’s not that they don’t
It’s that they have vastly different properties
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Why can’t you compete again?
Oh? What about “bioactive viability” ?
Close!
Bioactive/Bioactivity is on the right track…but “viability” seems like it could be improved.
I mean it we’re planning on making up new terminology…(plenty of precedent)
What about soaking in epsom salt and magnesium oil spray, what’s your take on it? Does the skin soak in magnesium?
Edit: What about soaking in coffee, does caffeine get absorbed?
Also, how does Aloe Vera work on sunburns, and does the skin soak up minerals from natural clays or muds (i.e. bentonite, Moroccan red clay)?
I gather that you are a good source of knowledge on this topic, thank you!
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I can, and do. Just not with a pain cream currently unfortunately. Still need to formulate, I do have the packaging ready though and am considering getting a cat homogenizer to do the job correctly. I made a google doc of what clients ask for when coming into the cbd shop and pain cream was #2
No, my stance on bath bombs is irrelevant. I really enjoy educating myself on products that work, and ones that don’t work, and ones that can be done better! That’s the goal
So I didn’t go to school for Biology, hence the name, but I did enjoy bio class very much. Cells are made up of phospholipid bi layers which contain different types of pumps in them that are specialized to move ions from one side of the cells to the other. These are particularity good at moving ions back and forth to balance the equilibrium of the cell. When talking about salts, magensium, and minerals contained in clay’s there are many ions present. These ions can freely penetrate the skin when the equilibrium is out of balance. So if there is an over abundance of them on the outside they will move to the inside to balance the difference. I think there is something to do with the amount of water in the cells as well dilutions and all that jazz. Caffeine is something im not too knowledgeable about but I Believe there are studies out there on the subject. A quick google search indicated that caffeine can in fact penetrate the skin readily. This is due to the hydrophilic properties of the molecule. Apparently it will move faster through the skin through hair follicles. If i had to guess its probably got a lot to do with those double bonded Oxygens. They can pull an electron and become negatively charged allowing them to act like ions. Last question was aloe vera and sun burns. From what I understand this molecular mixture is meant to soothe, exfoliate, reduce inflammation, increase moisture, and allow for new skin cells to regenerate. This regeneration is caused by pollysaccharides. The soothing is caused by carboxypeptidase. All of these properties just promote over all wellness of the skin. Hope that information was enjoyable and helpful for all!
Edit: If there are biologists with more knowledge than me please feel free to update or correct anything I may have misinterpreted.
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Nope, that’s just marketing bla bla
Nope. What @CannabinoidChemist said is wrong. Caffeine is not really hydrophilic (hence why decaffeination used Dichloromethane, now supercritical CO2), and even if it were, that would be even more of a reason for it NOT to permeate through skin.
On intact skin, it works by providing a purely physical mode of action, requiring no uptake of any pharmacologically active agent — simply evaporating water from the gel-like matter of the plant.
On skin where the biological barrier of fatty acids and dead skin cells is damaged, it again provides, through a purely physical mode of action, protection against evaporation of extracellular liquid, hence its usefulness.
It doesn’t. Metals (metal ions) cannot permeate through skin. Exceptions are metal compounds like methyl mercury that are fat soluble and have properties vastly different from those of the actual metal in the compound.
All of that is flat out wrong. Those oxygens don’t pull single electrons, they pull on ALL electrons in their vicinity due to their stronger electronegativity compared to the adjacent atoms like Nitrogen and Carbon, but in Caffeine there is no way the double bonded Oxygen can get ionized under regular conditions.
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I spilled nicotine 100mg/ml on my leg once. I definitely felt nauseous even though I washed it off asap. I’m no scientist tho 
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I did quite a bit of reading that seemed to say soaking in magnesium can increase levels of magnesium in the body. It doesn’t readily penetrate through the skin but instead through hair follicles. This is the same for caffiene. When caffeine is applied through a patch or some type of ointment it has the ability to be absorbed through transdermal means. Maybe what I’m reading/ have read is wrong. It seems like hair follicles play a large role in certain molecules or ions being able to penetrate the skin. What do you think about that? You seem to have a greater grasp on the subject than I do and I’d love to hear your opinion on that.
Nicotine does get absorbed when it is in its freebase form, it’s quite lipophilic and can pass through skin without much trouble. Also, Propylene glycol can act as a form of permeation enhancing agent, which will drastically speed up absorption.
Just like Fentantyl does in patches, or THC/CBD would in a cream or patch.
In general, lipophilic substances can pass through skin, which is a rather dangerous property by itself.
That’s different, a patch or ointment will create a barrier to evaporation of water, so the protective layer of dead skin cells and fats starts to swell and the gaps in between cells get wider and some molecules can pass through. But that’s cheating 
Can you link what you found? When i researched this, there were only sources that led back to the manufacturers of the stuff tested, which is never a credible source of information.
@sparklingwater thanks, some good reads there!
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I will look them up again. It was on google scholar. The increases were small but still increases. Its my day off so I’ll do this when I feel motivated haha. I suppose you’re right about the caffeine that is cheating but have you heard about things going through hair follicles? Does that sound valid?
