I have been considering adding a bath bomb or bath salt to my product line for quite awhile due to requests from retail stores, and am wondering if they really “work”. I have access to a powder mixer and a kitchen aid mixer.
With the small amount of cannabinoids dispersed into an entire bathtub it seems as though what would be absorbed through the skin or wherever else would be slim to none.
I have tried quite a few different brands of CBD/THC bath bombs and salts and although they are quite relaxing, so is taking a normal bath with regular water.
Is this just as useless as the CBD hand sanitizer we have been seeing pop up out of nowhere or is there some actual truth to the effectiveness?
i mean i actually really like the bath bombs i make… mine are filled with coconut oil and epsom salts which make my skin feel good as fuck. vs using lotion which has hot spots soaking in a bath of oil i feel like moisturizes my skin a whole lot more in my personal experience. also helps on the muscle recovery and aches and pains. i think 50-100mg ones are decent. but you have to keep in mind how much of that is actually able to enter the blood stream? how much of it is condensing once the water cools down and how much is condensing on the sides of the tub? Most of the ones ive seen in stores are 100-150mg of THC. I used to make mine 200mg cbd and 50-100mg thc… my friend tried one that i made at around 150mg THC and she said she could feel it a decent amount. but nothing like you would if you ate 150mg of THC
I mainly make the coconut oil ones as well, and I enjoy them I guess what I am wondering is if they are delivering any CBD/THC or just doing the same job as a normal bath bomb
Cannabinoids are not going to be able to permeate your skin unless they are encapsulated in some sort of nanoemulsion. That being said once in an aqueous environment I’m not sure the encapsulated form would last very long. Leaving you with oils floating on the surface of your water or just getting stuck to the sides of the tub. If you’re looking to get relaxing/ soothing effects from your bath bombs I would just look into specific terp blends. Aroma therapy combine with a hot bath would probably achieve a lot more. If you are looking for a cannnnabinoid effect then just eat an edible or smoke some herb while in the bath.
@CannabinoidChemist That makes a lot of sense. I think it’s unreasonable to expect the CBD/THC entering your body via the skin when dissolving a bath bomb in a tub of water. I actually think it’s really misleading to give consumers the impression that the both bomb will do anything other than make for a nice bath. (Not saying you’re making any claims but there’s a vendor here in Berlin that I talked to that sells a 16 Euro bath bomb and tried to convince me that the 100mg of CBD will create a relaxing effect.)
So your vote is for no bioavailability whatsoever? Not even if it was 1,000-2,000mg per bath bomb?
I agree the pillows and CBD aromatherapy are a really, really bad look for the industry, that rabbit hole has made me go nuts a couple times. None of the tinctures my brand makes for humans are under a 10% concentration. So I’m really not trying to mix some bs in with high dose products. Really like your brand by the way.
I am just waiting for someone to come out with a CBD MRE or 35 lb bucket of CBD oats to go along with all this hand sanitizer they have been pushing lately amidst the panic
This is what I was expecting, and why I have been holding off on making them for sales.
Very frustrating listening to the reps coming into the CBD stores and pitching BS. Had some dude come in with literal fortune cookies that supposedly had 2mg of CBD in each cookie…
Yeah people pushing these products have no idea what they are talking about. Absorption of cannabinoids through your skin is an uphill battle that you should steer clear of. If you’re looking for an easy mix and sell product look into oil based tinctures. I have posted on a few threads about my work with oil based tinctures and from my R&D with the company I work for these are super easy to make and really effective. Look at Rso juice or soda - #14 by CannabinoidChemist
2mg of CBD is a laughable amount. You gotta eat like 150 cookies to get a real dose off that amount.
Anyone saying a bath bomb cannot have efficacy is misinformed. We have manufactured and sold hundreds of thousands of units direct to customer for years now with thousands of glowing reviews. Just like any topical, it all comes down to formulation.
I can assure you that soaking in a properly formulated bath bomb beats a spot application of most topicals. There are many factors that impact permeation/absorption and it’s impossible to make a blanket statement that topical application does not work. We have customers with very serious ailments that buy bath bombs religiously for their symptoms. I cannot speak on every manufacturer/brand/formulation, but the reviews and repeat purchases speak for themselves.
I do have a few topicals in my line, nothing too crazy but a couple of them are unique and have given some people relief with their skin conditions. I am most interested in creating some sort of msm pain cream next, don’t really mind the uphill battle I would just need a product that works to reverse engineer
The company I work for makes a topical that actually allows the cannabinoids to penetrate the skin. Its amazing and gives real results in minutes. We also make other topicals that seem to work but its really the base that is giving the soothing feeling. The distillate added is basically being rubbed on the skin and doing little to nothing in the way of helping. If you’re looking to make a pain cream that actually works you’re going to need to make nano-emulsions that will encapsulate the cannabinoids and allow them to penetrate the skin. What skin conditions are you treating with your topicals? This guy at work has psoriasis and he made a cream with RSO that seemed to help a lot.
Fun Fact Rick Simpson first made RSO to rub on his skin for his skin cancer.
You’re drinking your own kool-aid dude, anyone who has a clue as to how topical absorption and human anatomy works understands that even a megadose bath bomb is going to have poor bioavailability, your customers glowing reviews do not Trump hard facts and science. Sorry