80c bath temp is perfectly fine
150c is hot condenser tek
250c is volcano condenser tek (lol)
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Is this for real!? I already set one house on fire.
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Just an update on where my research has led me, hoping for feedback that matches my goals.
I know allot of the folks here are totally in it for the business end. I am not. I am just looking to process enough oil for my own personal use.
Iām now thinking of a 500ml setup. I think 2L will be far too big for me. I harvest about 22 ounces of biomass every 3 months or so. Iām going to dedicate half to oil, then keep the other half to keep as flower. So, Iām really looking to process about 10 ounces or so of bud (with the sugar leaves).
Right now, I have a welch 1400 and a Yellow Jacket. The yellow jacket info is here, its the 6cfm model:
For a heat bath, I now have a Fisher Scientific Isotemp 202:
At this point, I am looking for a glass kit, with a mantle and stands. Before I pull the trigger, Iām going back and forth on the size, 500ml, 1L, 2L.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Probably 500. Was reading earlier today that someone here on future4200 is auctioning @Beaker (RIP)
500 mill setup.
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Iād go for the 500ml setup personally. It takes quite a bit of material to get 1000ml (Iāve ran with 700ml in the bf) after decarb.
I need to wash about 20lbs trim to get near 1000ml crude after decarb. Its normally 700-900ml.
And x2 on @Beaker items!
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Thanks @Defender and @Demontrich. I am more and more leaning towards a 500ml.
I did see the Beaker items. I was all ready to throw my hat in, but I am confused if thatās a 250ml setup, because one of the guys also threw a 500ml kit up there. So two kits in the same thread.
For sure, I think 500ml is the way. Talking with the other local guys that I grow with, even if we pool our raw mats together, we would have 5 pounds every 3-5 months.
If you guys donāt mind, could I keep posting where I am at with this process, and get feedback? Iāve been doing my research and reading for a very very long time, and am just putting the rig together. I donāt even know any of you, but Iāve already read all your posts over the last year or so. Without knowing it, youāve already helped me a ton!
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I should say, that comment about you all helping me was directed at the wider crowd! Iād hate to leave folks out in a call out. Great community here!
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Hey late to the party here, but if you ever have any questions on vacuum equipment, feel free to shoot me a message. I flip pumps on the side and 90% of the time that involves some kind of rebuild, so Iāve been inside most common pumps for this industry. If you find the Welch to be too slow let me know and Iāll keep my eye out for something with higher throughput.
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If you havenāt made the purchase already, Iād say the 250ml spd kit being offered up is a good bargain. And you wouldnāt have to worry about gathering so much crude for a run.
I was curious, but couldnāt justify all the other costs associated with getting started. Plus the amount of material needed for any spd run kinda rules it out for me.
Anyway, good luck with it all!
I agree with @Demontrich ~20lbs of trim usually yields me close to a liter of finished crude. With 10ozās, even if itās high quality youāre looking at maybe just over 100g of crude. Maybe 100-150? And I donāt think youād wanna wait another 3 months just to run, so the 250 ml might be right up your alley.
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I canāt find a thread that has the info on the @Beaker glass. Iām looking to find out what is included.
Itās the most of the glass needed and the heating mantle. Youāll still need a cold trap from my understanding.
I was looking at prices on just the glass for a 250ml kit, and it was like 350.
Make em an offer!!!
@cyclopath, care to add any information to entice this man?
Iām curious why most always refer to yields in crude? Why never the final pass amount? Iād love to hear some results. Iāve heard numbers like 70% yield from crude usually but just curious!
I hit 75% on average of mains
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Thanks @Demontrich
On average, where does that leave you on potency? Assuming you reduced the crude to 75%.
P.S. what do you have the most trouble with remediating?
Well I usually do go off of final yield, however I was going off finished crude yield so that the OP could see just how much heāll actually have to load in the flask.
We are yielding about 60-65% mains on our crude.
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The runs Iāve done, 86%, 91%, and 92%
75% is what I pull from the decarbd crude.
Imo, potency depends on how you swap flasks. Swap too early you adding Terps, too late tour adding tails. Iām still refining my flask swap times.
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mono cow?
@Curious_Roberto posted a link.
the ākitā is pictured in post four of: 500ml or 2L - #4 by cyclopath
whatās included (essentially as picturedā¦):
mantle, boiling flask, cow, several receiving flasks (I think there might be 4).
pretty sure I can come up with an analog thermometer that fits.
I donāt know what @beaker was using for a cold trap, so youāll need one of those.
whatās not included: pump, vac gauge (Iāve seen it done without, I donāt recommend starting out that way). I did run into a JB DV-22N digital gauge that measures down to 10um for $150 just the other day. not ideal, but might be sufficient. Iām currently running a JB DV-41 ($250) on our 2L systems. Itās better than running blindā¦
Also missing klet clips and GL14 connectors. Some folks just run them as if they were hose barbs (push the hose over the threads rather than using the correct adaptor).
I donāt believe that the mantle has built in stirring (Iāll check). even if it does, @beakers stirbars did not make it into my hands, so youāre on your own there as well. [can anyone address how no stirbar will work?!?]
Iām doing a training run for our new crew members this morning, and if I donāt run into any snags, it might be amusing to fire up the little rig and see how it behaves.
If I was to guess, Iād say @beaker was running this on a robinaire hvac pump at one point. He eventually threw several $k at an edwards EM30 & an appropriate vac controller. although I donāt know that he ever hooked this little SPD up to it.
If i do have time to run it, Iāll probably try it with the hvac pump. or at least try pulling the system down with said robinaire.
Iād say it was a decent deal for $250. with the understanding that @Roguelab offered that mostly on sentimental value.
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How do you know when to switch to mains?
Do you use ultraviolet light or some other method?