ideal?
that would imply I have spun them in more than one.
we had a fuge. we found “not glass” that fit.
anything with 98-100mm diameter buckets should work.
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makes sense. I just want to be able to spin more than those tiny 50ml tubes. cant get any real work done at that size
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there are multiple desktop and floor model centrifuges that take rotors similar to this
4x 600ml or 6 x 600ml should get you buckets in the right size.
1000ml buckets exist, but then you’ve got to use a spacer or find a different bottle.
swinging buckets are superior to fixed angle in this application, but you can generally spin the fixed angle rotors harder, so there are pro’s to both solutions.
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how fast are you spinning? is there such a thing as too fast?
The basket is the limiting factor for spinning. Before we made basket supports we wouldn’t go above 1500.
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listed up thread…
the force IS related to the speed.
…but without rotor diameter, “speed” doesn’t give you the complete picture. ask the all gnowing one
yes, too fast breaks things. perhaps catastrophically.
certainly how I made “shatter” most recently.
How to turn "Shatter" into diamonds/sauce/distillate/anything I can sell?
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look at those stones… gorgeous!
/s
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yep.
what you can SEE is a completely pulverized pint canning jar.
the THCA is inside what is left of the mesh basket.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CljlBn3Nq-A/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Check this out, turn your Panda into a centrifuge for separating diamonds from sauce (I DO NOT RECOMMEND DOING THIS IT’S NOT SAFE YOU MIGHT LAUNCH A JAR OR GLASS INTO YOURSELF OR OTHERS). I have manufactured custom bucket inserts for a legit brand of lab centrifuges. You can run 500-600 grams of material in my containers per centrifuge. Run times around 5-15 minutes with the correct conditions. The issue with the centrifuge that is shown in the above post is the amount of g-force applied to the material. The run times are so long because the rotor axis is not long enough to produce the g-force to quickly separate the material.
LinkedIn posts about this:
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I’m not sure how to replay to certain posts so this is for the guy that posted some drawings of an insert:
You should make the support for the inserts much lower. Typically there’s not much volume needed for the sauce, and lowering your support structure will move the screen further away from the rotor which will increase the centrifugal force on the material.
I already have the containers made for Baxter centrifuges, but could make custom inserts for any buckets. It’s not cheap, but I can sell the entire set up, centrifuge with four containers for about $5K. The containers have replaceable stainless steel screen inserts, but if you are careful with the screens they can be reused indefinitely.
If you don’t care about your safety you can use ball jars and the panda spin dryer. I have a video on Instagram showing Ball Mason jars, with a cocktail shaker lid, and the future4200 fav a.k.a. The Panda spin dryer.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CljlBn3Nq-A/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
You will have to forgive the video quality. I just got in on social media and figured out how to use my phone to record stuff other people might want to watch. All that video was shot before I realized I might share that on line. It was just for my own records.
Final disclaimer. I agree with the 89F optimal temp for nucleation to occur. I did that reaction at room temp with out any pressure. I have been successful at making crystals from as low as 55F to as high as 104F. If you have enough seed you can turn any good quality extraction into a fully crystallized container in less than 15 minutes.
The main issue with speeding the crystallization is hydrocarbons can get trapped in the crystals and you have to crush them, vac purge, or bring them to their melting point and immediately cool to recrystallize them. I might post more on that process at some later time.
I noticed some people are posting about using larger lab centrifuges. Here’s a good link on centrifuge failure:
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Did you ever get any of these made? Interested in buying some
They weren’t successful, the baskets still got crushed because they busted out the crimping on the flange instead
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We use the style i designed every day and it allows us to increase the speed about 80%. The sides of the screen where the seam is eventually give out though.
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we actually lost a couple (3?) at the flange recently.
best guess is that the ratio of sup to ppt was abnormal, and we just had too much weight up top.
baskets may already have been failing at the seam when loaded.
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Do you have any for sale? What kinda load/RCF can they handle?
Just got my CLT55 from @Waxplug1. Ran some wide mouth jars with the short baskets that come with it up to 800 RCF with no issues. Only had about 50g in each basket and ran for a couple hours. Not sure how hard you can push those Lil guys 
I wouldn’t run them in glass jars. pretty sure we’ve deformed the stainless milk jugs we’re using with them. I also believe I’ve posted the rcf we are getting out of them. on the order of 2k iirc. couldn’t tell you where. other than “solved my shatter problem” is probably a decent search key
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Saw your post about the stainless cups that fit. Thank you for that!
Also saw your post about 4000 rpm and backing to 2000 which equated to just over 800 RCF. I can’t find it atm but thank you for that as well!
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awesome. that sounds about right. above that they tend to fail radially (at the side seam), then at the top flange. a band around the waist might solve that and I thought I saw @Waxplug1 heading in that direction.
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What causes winterized unactivated crude to crystalize sometimes, and sometimes it just stays uniform?