That’s actually what i did. I injected into the the open sleeve jacket and then filled it with dry ice and alcohol
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I did a handful of tests at the begging of my diamond journey and came to the conclusion that the dewax process wasn’t a benefit to the extract. At least the way that i process my material. It just seemed to be a loss in thca and less runs per day. I did a number of different soak times and found what worked best all around for quality and yield.
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I’m guessing due to the extra moisture content/more preservation of terps in the material?
what extra moisture?
Due to it being fresh frozen material
As opposed to dried cured
yeah.
Again.
I’m continuesly saying this about dry material. Not frozen.
I’m not sure, but are you purposely ignoring that fact to prove your point on running frozen. Because, again, I’m not talking about frozen material.
Frozen material I run cold and frozen.
Your trials with dewaxing were obviously done wrong if you were diminishing your yields. The only loss you should see is the fats dropping out.
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Alright alright this only applies to dry material then. I did these tests with dry trim, nugs, and fresh frozen. Still pretty confused on how you get a higher yield after dewaxing since you are removing physical weight from the end product? that’s some magic science.
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I don’t take wax. Weigh it. Winterize it, and get more.
What I’m telling you is, when I run cold, and even three times as much solvent as I need. I get a lower yield if I ran it normal and sent it to the dewax chamber and removed the impurities. Running material that constantly gives a %20+ return. And then I run it -50/60c all the way through. Use 90 lbs of solvent. And I lose 5%.
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I would respectfully disagree. But hey i’m not knocking what your doing. if you get better dry yields doing that then dewax until the cows come home. i’m just stating my personal experience. I’m probably wrong and don’t know what i’m talking about.
if you extract warmer then yeah your yields will go up and you’ll also pull more undesirables. So getting a higher yield and then a lower one after dewaxing seems counter counterintuitive to me. Also i don t get why that applies to only dry material and not fresh frozen?
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I think I follow what you’re saying, makes sense too if you’re running crc.
If you don’t mind, is your process different if you’re not running crc and cured material, I assume not right? Or am I totally on the wrong track?
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Currently I’m running a bit of cured material. Fortunately the grow I am with only packages their tops, so I get everything else. Literally. So I am taking my sweet ass time to run it properly.
Got a wild hair up my ass and used my dewax chamber to run a cold run to give this hoopla a whirl that everyone says works so well. On fresh material. And some claim with dried material. I have two 6x48 columns that I cool down and flush both through. I recover enough to fill one more. Literally in ten minutes or so. Chill that really quick flush another 30lbs of solvent over 7-8 lbs of material and I didn’t get anywhere near as close as when I just ran a slightly chilled solvent through dry material, transfered it into the dewax chamber and chilled appropriately to remove the solubles, vegetable oils, and other impurities.
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As far as “dewaxing” to produce diamonds or thca. No, It’s not entirely necessary. But it is if you want to do it right.
Now, would you say that your re-rocks would grow so well if they were in an extremely thick mother liquor.
I will go out on a limb and say they won’t as fast, as large, or with how clear they are?
Why do we go through the process that we do to isolate cbd, gbg, or any other novel compounds? To isolate them as best as possible.
If you have a bunch of surface tension in your mother liquor they won’t crash as well or grow the same. The better you polish your material, the better you can form structures.
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I agree the better you polish your material the better your extract will come out but at what cost? time, yield, terp loss? If your material is frozen dry or FF and your solvent is even colder you should still get a very clean extract. This day and age there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of either. So if your limited with material yes that helps but if you have plenty and more on deck through put is more important then a longer process to only get a little extra. Don’t do too much dry these days unless FF is running low. plus your losing thca in that dewax process no matter how many stages your doing it in.
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Milligrams.
I’ve already pointed out the huge error in your process of why you can’t do it correctly. Your experience with it being done wrong has you gathering the wrong information on a subject.
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Yeah i definitely don’t know what i’m doing. So how do you crash out undesirables but not thca. because you stage your dewaxing? or because you extract at different temperatures?
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I run not as cold because it’s not as necessary. Then I gradually chill the solution to the desired temp and then filter.
In that saturated of a solution it’s not going to form anything recordable that you are going to write home to mom about. The most that ever gets in the fats has never been more than 25%. And with 7-10 grams, maybe even 14. And at maximum that’s less than 4 grams…
Again, if you are having that big of a loss, you are having a problem.
Now, not as many fats will drop out in butane as will ethanol, so you won’t ever, ever, even your way, remove all the fats.
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ya unless you don’t extract them to begin with. what your saying is extract more with undesirables then filter to get a cleaner product but with your dewax process your losing more thca in doing so.
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