Now how would that make sense, you now read through what I said. We both came to a conclusion of moisture. If it sugared it’s due to faster nucleation forming & sugaring instead of stacking its lattice. In a way this can be more beneficial for someone wanting to grow a faster diamond after remelting the washed off sugar & resaturating it for a recrx. The only point of it was figuring out why his jars out pours didn’t grow a diamond.
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If you made sugar then nucleation occurred.
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Trust me I understand, I know some terms may confuse, but in all reality was never the reasoning behind it. I know everyone likes to jump my ass over something or nothing, I’m kinda used to it lmao.
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Agitation is better known as nucleation?
That’s some prime sciencing there bro!
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Nah, they just don’t want your idiocy spreading Bro!
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Which came first the chicken or the egg? That’s literally what you’re trying to compare. Stop trying to shit post or add something to say with context to the conversation.
Which came first? The agitation.
Agitation can initiate (cause) nucleation.
If A causes B, then saying
“B, better known as A”
is complete nonsense.
This shit is only confusing because you make it so.
I’ve got my coffee, now it’s time for my meds. You do seem to understand much of this, but you also make word salads that do nothing but obsfucate.
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Didn’t mean to make that confusing honestly, my thought with that is you wouldn’t go tell someone to nucleate you tell them to go agitate it so it nucleates. Really wasn’t trying to confuse anyone there lol.
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Word salads. Fuckin love it.
Have a small centrifuge ?
Place some in and let it spin for a few hours
Any seperation should be visible
Would be a trip is your hunch is correct
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So I appreciate all the positive feedback from cyclopath & Cheebachief. You two are so very talented individuals who help me alot with my endeavors. I think I must swallow the cold hard truth. Garage in Garbage out. After going through all my notes from the closed loop the pattern kinda smacked me in the face. I will empty my collection vessel & run material that was not grown nor kept fresh. Its older very dry material that is starting to degrade. I hope we can continue this thread 
for ill be running material soon & I am very grateful for everyone’s contributions.
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Remind me i need to change my sieve my stuff came out badder which wasn’t normal 5 outta 6 runs
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Are all of your jars scraped up at the bottom?
Etching jars is no bueno. It can cause a BOOM. It’s happened and documented onnhere in the past.
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Then take a glass slide and scratch that.
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U don’t have to scratch anything, reduce to thinner oil if live no pressure, if not live it’ll be lil thick might need to keep lik more solvent which will add more pressure
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I never scratch the bottom of my ball jars for jartek. Yes in the laboratory setting using the proper tools & lab glass; I’ve etched quite a bit. It has been used in a variety of experiments & procedures for a long time. I use a dimond etching bit made for borosilicate glass. All the times I’ve scratched the bottom of a ball jar i see no difference between those & the ones I don’t scratch. And the most important reason for me is safety. I think the ball jar takes a whole lot of abuse as it is in jartek.Creating deep enough scratches can easily result in stress fractures.
I’m not getting anything out of a cert % of jars. And I’ve tried multiple blends. I have a nozzle on the bottom of my heated collection vessel & my solvent t as need is bran new and sit in dry ice with 2 5lb columns with dewaxing columns are dry ice filled. Jars get cold crash except & around 10% there is little becomes little to no dimonds.