Why are the classifieds full of used ethanol labs for sale?

That’s why the wooks just pack the tubes.
@cyclopath
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I remember my old lab was taking about that. I really like the design. Way easier to load and unload than the usual tri-clamps. That price tag tho

The lab I work at is doing just this… everything about going to butane is a plus over making ethanol extract in the legal rec market in Washington…

After the vape scare disty is tanking. Only people really buying from us are out in the sticks, and aren’t necessarily at the forefront of the sales curve… other than that, it’s wholesale to companies making edibles.

Trying to make a dabbale etho sauce that’s comparable to propane or butane terpene wise is next to impossible in my book.

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@cyclopath I agree. How can a company compete when other small business competitors are using the two systems below? It will be very hard if not impossible. Not to mention now small businesses are competing with players processing tons per day.
HERE and HERE

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Automation is for mids.

Besides, why compete when you can collab…

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I didn’t mean to give the impression previously that I have preference in one direction or the other. To be clear, I just like money and making good drugs that people enjoy and are safe using (and are safe to make) haha. I enjoy making pretty live resins and shatters and sauces and diamonds and all that fun stuff. At any rate, the thrill is gone and I no longer see the utility in defending to death any personal preference for making/using any particular product format. Hydrocarbon products are just bound to a lower throughput process that uses solvents of an inherently greater hazard level. As a career chemical engineer, this is less attractive to me since grand scale and safety are something of an aphrodisiac I’ve been trained to always show preference towards.

I agree that I can’t think of a superior solvent to butane/propane for a dabbable product unless you get into some true isolation/formulation type work to make a truly engineered product (which is certainly feasible but requires additional operations, but may permit a finer degree of quality control since you can guarantee a tighter product specification).

I do think its a shame that distillate has gotten such a bad rep because of the vape scare which arguably had little to do with the cannabinoids themselves. I think distillate has some amount of elegance to it from a strictly process point of view (you need not tell me distillate is generic as a product) - its the great equalizer since starting material doesn’t dictate final quality (i.e. a robust process). It allows farmers to not take a huge loss when their crops come out shitty or if they don’t sell right away and lose their terp value or if they want to avoid wasting out their trim. As a product, carts are as generic as can be but they’re certainly convenient for the not-so-dedicated consumer market. A lot of people who like cannabinoids on a casual basis don’t own rigs for one reason or another.

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Water, the Universal Solvent

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Instead of using pumps it is entirely possible and in fact potentially much simpler and more efficient to do a passive recovery even at larger scale.

see my instagram posts for more information and a run down of the refrigeration models we offer and how they should be used. (You will need to source an extractor and hook it up to our refrigeration system)

https://www.greenprocess.solutions/
https://www.instagram.com/gps_llc/

The system we use has a control panel- you can preset multiple recipes. On ovation you need to help it through a step by way of manipulating pressure.

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nail on the head

What states are you actually able to legally operate a passive system? It’s not legal here in Oregon…

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seriously, show me the law.

Sorry bud, I’m not going to hunt it down to show you the exact line in the documentation. I used to get paid for that type consulting of work.

I can guarantee you that it’s accurate though. Hell, just ask anyone with an OLCC license in Oregon running a hydrocarbon setup. It’s your business, so it’s in your best interest to check into that stuff for your own liability.

I was on the OLCC extract processor rules advisory committee 4-5 years ago now. I practically had the regs memorized. No passive systems in OR… And no janky pumps either (cmep/trs). Cheapest legal option is an MVP 6cfm.

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Hexane is a class 1 solvent like toluene or xylene and should not be used in cannabis consumables

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I remember reading that years ago, but it’s my understanding that certain states are allowing hexane to be used for extraction.
I think the ‘clear’ guy is now running a larger facility with hexane as his main solvent in California? I could be mistaken…

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Yup, on a repurposed cotton seed oil plant. Hexane is a widely used solvent in plant oil extraction.

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You could wash a Hexane extract in alcohol to try to lower the ppm further… I still wouldn’t trust it though

I spent all last year trying to make EHO shatter comparable to Butane. I learned how to filter. I was so determined to try to get better at yields and stability but eventually I gave up on it before I started investing a lot into it. Nonetheless, it’s true! It’s near by flippin’ impossible to get a same result from Ethanol as you would Hydrocarbons.

Purging to a shatter is impossible (for me) with EHO. Unless you have a knowledge of filter media by liquid wieght and all that jazz then you’re not gonna get the exact coloring your seeking. It’s super expensive as a solvent. Finally, If you don’t have a fuge large scale Ethanol extraction is pointless because you will lose some of your yield.

I ended up going back to hydrocarbons this year and I’m probably never going back to Ethanol unless I’m making RSO or if by chance plant material gets thru a filter and I need to winterize.

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We use a lunatech setup at our lab.