Whipping Technique Questions

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The info/data can be looked up on google for the terpenes boiling point.

My info/data comes with the experience of handling millions of grams of extract in all processes and truly understanding the material. This isn’t speculation. 95% of what youve read is wrong.

You know we used to believe thc would boil off in a vacuum oven if we got it over 100f because skunkpharms posted a grapic of thc boiling points and the scale was off on microns?

If you’ve ever run a distillation unit, you know this is completely false as even with the best equipment you won’t get thc to boil under 160c, and even that’s low.

TLDR: no this isn’t speculation.

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yes, but we are talking about boiling butane off 30-40F above it’s boiling temp, and using agitation to free any trapped butane. You are saying this is not enough heat to boil off 5% of the butane, a number I can only assume is a rough estimate without seeing corresponding data.

I don’t doubt your experience, only trying to understand the subject better.

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Once the mixture is 95% cannabis oil and 5% butane the amount of heat required to evaporate the butane is much higher than straight butane. I wasn’t saying the exact numbers are 95/5, I’m talking about the science behind it and at some point you’re not getting it all out without heat/vacuum. Even really well purged extracts test in the .1% butane range. Less purged extracts may test in the .5% butane range which is more than I’m willing to smoke.

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Half a percent a worry? For an amount so small I would assume it would offgas while melting in the banger. I’d assume so - wouldn’t know.

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.5% is 5000ppm which is the legal standard in most states last time i checked.

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hello all, from my understanding of this thread you can whip at any time of the process, I have purged for 3 days @ 98F and have stable slabs. my question is can I now heat the slabs on a hot plate and whip to make batter/ butter or a different consistency other then shatter as my clients want something other then shatter and sugar wax that I have mastered.

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@Dred_pirate would disagree.

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This is true.

I have gotten several ND for residual solvents. Zero vacuum involved.

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What about heat?

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Nothing more than 30c

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Damn that’s really impressive. I’ve never managed to get batter that low without at least some heat/vacuum applied.

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You dont have to vac for clean badders. My badders never go in a vac oven under vac. Never go above 25-30c. We test every batch of oil that goes out of the lab… ND or LOQ residual solvents on pretty much all of the badders that come out of the lab. Terp % anywhere from 2.5-12% depending on cured resin or live resin material. Multiple test results to prove it.

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I thought this said whip it techniques
Carry on

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What’s ND, Dred?

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Non Detect.

I was lower than their reporting limit.

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Ah excellent. I’ve always read that Vac is king. Without it, you’re smoking poison. Etc… Personally I don’t like the vac. Terpless shatters are not exactly a luxurious product.

Just made some. Wish I knew how to get it more saucy. Purged open air 60c and agitated until no reaction. Remolded to constitute a single soft unit.

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I’d say the real answer is right here…

if you want to know where your residual solvent levels are, you need to test for them.

I get that it’s not that easy everywhere yet, and in house analytics aren’t really a traditional market thing…$10k will get you a GC that can do residual solvents as well as potency.

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And in all honesty, most labs aren’t consistent. It’s best to have an in house for r n d. :100: agreed with what you said.

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same here, rarely use vacuum pumps anymore unless its for shatter lol or purging off residuals in hte.

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