What the hell is up with WikiJane

im weak

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Have you guys ever found a site wiki that was usable? I just assume all site wikis are full of guys sucking each other off. Seriously didnā€™t even phase me. vagina is the darkside

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Canā€™t remember the user name, but I remember his little hissy fit.

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It looks like another user came and reverted the change.
@SquibbleMyJibbs Sorry for your bad experience. Spam happens.

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Should be grounds for some type of reprimanding/silencing, no? Pretty sure thatā€™s against the community guidelines.

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Still so much old man left on the wiki. Whoever did the reverting missed some. Iā€™ll try to do a little cleanup this afternoon if I get done with some stuff around the house first.

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Its actually a true open wiki right now. Might just make it open registration edits only.

DM me some links please.

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Will do. Gimme a few minutes.

Hey @SquibbleMyJibbs, welcome to the future! Sorry your first visit to the WikiJane was unpleasant and awkward. Hopefully it didnā€™t cause you any workplace drama.

The Wiki is still very much a work in progress, and always will be until we start building it as a community. Thank you for bringing up the issue over there. You have helped remind me that I want to work on some entries over there to help give back to this awesome community.

I hope you enjoy your stay, learn much, and level up with the rest of us!

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Tried to show someone and it was gone
Damn that woulda been funny.

ā€œCheck out this articleā€:crazy_face:

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New user here but I do network security and hosting for my day job. You will probably have to require approval before someone edits or suffer endless spam. There canā€™t be that many people signing up to make changes.

https://www.dokuwiki.org/faq:userapproval

I also noticed the sticky thread about hosting. I can get you a dedicated server in a datacenter with all the certifications for maybe $1000/yr. I donā€™t know where those numbers are coming from.

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Elaborate please. I am talking about Purchasing server hardware and colo space not renting somebody elseā€™s server (VPS), we already do that for around $1500 year. What are the specs of the box you can get?

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A VPS is normally a shared virtual server, a Dedicated Server the hardware is yours and is not shared with other customers.

Here is a company I helped create, I am no longer affiliated with them but they are decent guys. Some of the servers are offered on a Rent To Own basis where you can take ownership of the server and just do colocation after a year.

https://billing.dacentec.com/hostbill/index.php?/cart/dedicated-servers/

There are a number of similar businesses, so it would be possible to have 2 servers in 2 locations and replicate your data in case one provider blew up. Here is another business that a friend of mine runs.

https://quickpacket.com/billing/store/dedicated-servers-charlotte

The last option (an least desirable IMO) would be to buy a server and colocate it, but then who fixes the server when it breaks, who is responsible for spare parts and lots of other issues that can get expensive quick.

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Thank you for the explanation and links.

A dedicated server is NOT yours, itā€™s still the ā€˜hosting providersā€™ and even though it might be more secure than a VPS, is not more secure than our own hardware in our own colo cage with our own intrusion protection measures.

The rent to own ā†’ colo situation is one I was thinking about, I imagine at these prices (~$100/mo) the RTO is probably more like 3-5 years? Would be a better way to ease into it than paying for it all upfront but at what premium? Do you get hands on after its paid off?

There are a ton of colos here in Hillsboro, OR next to my hometown. I (and maybe other selected members) would be hands. Are these options you mentioned really less expensive than just getting a couple servers and managing them ourselves in the long run?

Explained below
Also, since this is your business, curious how these dont add up.

If you would like to give back and support the forum I propose the following goals which will fund us 2-4 more glorious years. It will be spent something like this:

$2,500 Status Quo ($1,250/yr for 2 years ~current)
$5,000 Database and server upgrade (Current x2, wont quite double capacity since scaling doesnt work that way, for 2 years))
$10,000 Live Streaming server, git, Invest in WikiJane.com articles and design for the ultimate hash wiki (will need a beefy transcoding server, lots of ram and cpu, the $1,200 RTO option would cover this, but I just cut out the middle man and priced a $5,000 server that would work, or figure 3-4 years of the RTO)
$20,000 = We get our very own server in a colocation center with physical security. I will put up ā€œsecureā€ services for users such as @future4200.com email, chat(xmpp), file share, ipfs, alt-networks, etc. Paid dev time for forum development (plugins, themes, etc)
(the server I priced out above, plus 2-4 years of colo costs depending on how much power and bandwidth we end up needing)
$40,000 = ā€œDisaster proofā€ our setup. If the west coast falls off, a server will still exists on the east.(doubled)

And I honestly think I low balled myself here.

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Oh, just the guy who made the websiteā€¦

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The RTO is 1 year, you can pick up the server or move it to colo.

Letā€™s say you buy a $5000 server put it to work, and it has a hard drive or motherboard failure. Who troubleshoots the server to order the part, who installs the part? Normally datacenters charge $200/hr for remote hands and eyes.

I donā€™t understand the need for Live Streaming and transcoding. Zoom and many others do it so cheap. If you want something branded you could do it. (Secure Web Conferencing, Video Conferencing, Remote Support, Remote Access Servers | R-HUB)

For the @future4200.com emails, file share and what not you could host all of that with cPanel or DirectAdmin.

I have gained a lot from this Forum, itā€™s a treasure chest. Iā€™d be happy to offer my time upgrading databases or forum software, setting up whatever services or email systems you wanted or helping with security. I know a bunch of developers overseas who turn $5000 projects into $500 projects.

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DMd for more info. Thanks! Our goal is still to have our own hardware (no/minimal 3rd party services, tracking, intrusion, meta data gathering, etc) but am looking into that (RTO) as a step between what we have now (VPS) and fully hosted.

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Join the glg for more sops

All love groovyšŸ™

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