Hi everyone, some people live in weed-illigal places, and strict laws on chemicals. To get high conversion would be only key to get medicinal THC.
Because of this i wanted to chat, hoping to hear your opinions and thoughts, on what would you do as CBD > THC conversion. And do some management from different threads, of all isomerisations i’ve seen or heard.
I’ve been reading threads, learning and studying for a decent time, 5 years±.
and still cant find the way for small scale.
with goal of 50% D9 THC and more,
that would be not that “imposible” like working with DCM as solvent. (AlCl3 sop)
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PTSA - great reagent for D8 THC, can give ± 90% D8, easy to handle reagents, can be probably handled at home envo with good vent
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well known for famous thread “ILL NYE CBD-D8 Conversion Master SOP”, with SOP for it.
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Some say that PTSA can give decent D9 ratio of 50%. How? Someone? Conversion cbd to delta 8 with ptsa (72% D9) Thank me later Δ8THC via ptsa - #80 by globtek33 (68% D9 thc!!!) @globtek33
(teach me plz lol)
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, but process is badly studied, and toluene RXN as many people said - doesnt work and dont give D9 as some studies said…
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that it’s like chasing your tail, and doing it too long will convert all to D8, and needs to be watched to understand it state…
(but who knows… open for debate question)
If it can actually do some D9 50-70% teach me plz lol
AlCl3 - great reagent for D9 THC, famous for it capability to give ± 90% D9, well known for
secret quench that people doesn’t share, which is necessary to not turn it all in D8, coz of THC-CL formation, and other smart stuff.
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Bad idea to do in home envo - coz of DCM, should be well ventilated. and is straight dead as some people say pTSA in DCM - #21 by Cassin
So it’s a no go
Phosphoric acid - interesting reagent that is hard to handle.
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Even in masters hands - most of runs failed. 3 to 1 fail run
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And process of acid preparation is kinda ass. (Vacuum and 135c ±, not hotter than 140c)
Untill acid changes color to brown-red ± (i’m a bit color-dumb)
Everything must be hardcore dry.
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“Failed” runs give 90% D8.
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Ones that went good - can give near full 90%+ convertion to D9.
so also no go
HCL - i badly know this one,
in gas form - all D8 (some proes say that if after that “super base is added, then it all turns into D9” it’s HHC-CL or THC-CL, not just D8 > D9, have to be -CL chlorinated)
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other HCL conc.% can also lead to some D9 formation…
(what can it do at 15% and 25% conc? does someone know? any D9?
some people have problem getting 32%, and i think it’s more D8 at that conc)
sulfuric acid - idk lol,
would it do any good D9 at 45% conc? with solvent like heptane
someone smart who knows?
Run a dilute catalytic sulfonic acid (like pTSA, sulfuric, camphorsulfonic acid, etc) in heptane cold. Depending how you go about it. you’ll be left with CBD and a decently split fraction of d8/d9. Temp and duration will dictate how much CBD remains unconverted, and ratio of d8/d9. If you run it hot, thermodynamics will take you in the direction of zero (100% conversion) CBD and >10:1 d8:d9. If you run it cold enough, no rxn. Youll have to play around with dilution and time/temperature to find a ratio of CBD:d8:d9 that youre happy with. If your goal is to just safely get blazed, who actually cares if there is some CBD leftover? I hear it cures pretty much everything anyways.
And not for nothing, its not like d8THC is terrible or will give you the plague - it definitely gets you blazed and it works well in combination with d9THC. So often I see consumers missing the forest for the trees. If you came up with an outcome that’s like 40% CBD: 30% d8THC: 30% d9THC you could probably call that a win.
It works fine in some ratio with d9THC. But also, yes many people have gotten stoned on just d8THC as evidenced by d8THC products at one point being all the rage in the US for a legal high - but it’s certainly less potent. It’s not as good as premium cannabis, but that’s only relevant to the choosey begger.
I was thinking that too high conc.% would just make D8,
like gasseous hcl (thats higher than 32%) makes D8 and some form of D9 later if used with tertsodiumbutoxide
sadly enough i don’t have this sop with super-base.
HCl in the right solvent is insoluble so dissolving the cbd in an alkane and bubbling HCl gas treu will create d9/d8 in high yields
The reaction for D8 in particular is near perfect with very few unknowns 99.4% D8
Reason this is the basis of the tert butoxide sop
You don t want to Handel HCl gas either
Once I broke the lab down after running 110kg of cbd with the alcl3 method ( that’s what it took me to crack it with the help of @Zzzeko23 )
Everything that was metal was oxidized rusted or discolored but I mean everything from the wall electric sockets to supposedly stainlessteel reactor frames to tools that where in the vecinity everything !!!
God knows it s the only reaction that brought me close to despair
@Zzzeko23 had the patience to listen to my rants and take notes of my observations nights on end figuring out the solution that I dedicate to him forever grateful
How? Someone?
this is game for free 
