My body would thank you, too!
I saw the pics of the n2 generator!
Does it do ln2 as well? Someone was showing me shit on YouTube about making ln2! Super interested
(Making compressed nitrogen would do me good too, I gotta go get a tank right now
so the on site nitrogen production systems are sort of specced to the individual usage of the facility for the time being. Once we have enough data as to average needs, we’re gonna offer an actual package you can buy, but we’re not quite there yet.
-Costs ranging from $15-25k depending on production/usage per hour, storage capacity, etc… All the systems can produce nitrogen anywhere from 95-99.9% pure.
-However As you get closer to the 100% mark, the production rates drop… similar to how it is harder for your vac pump to pull that last couple degrees than it is to get to -25.
-max output pressure is also a key figure when speccing/pricing a unit.
-The systems require a serious air compressor typically. 5-7k of that price above is usually the compressor.
If you go to https://abhoutit.com/n2/ there is an roi calculator to help you see how long it takes to justify the purchase depending on your facility’s usage… I’m gonna expand on it a bit to build in the hidden costs for a lot of smaller operations… i.e. gas, man hours, etc to go get the nitrogen and transport it to your site.
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Did you produce your own dry ice as well?
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no, never made it that far. I did however once buy this gadget… thinking it would solve all my problems… Temperature Safe Shipping and Transportation Packaging | Polar Tech Industries, Inc. AZ2 Snow Cone Dry Ice Snow Maker - Direct Mount | AZ2 | Polar Tech Industries
but it turned out to sporadically shoot some snowy dry ice out and was a total waste of several hundred dollars.
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doesn’t do ln2… very different set of specs to deal with that level of pressure/temp. nitrogen can be produced on a smaller scale in a cost effective manner, but I have a feeling producing ln2 is a process that only makes sense on a fairly large scale.
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could have gone other ways…
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For sure. Much worse ones.
I’ve seen people do diy LN2 generators that work by just compressing and condensing atmospheric air with a glorified cold finger. Very small scale
Though. Like a few mls per day.
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I saw a video on YouTube someone showed me and they used a cryopump, whatever that is, and they made like a liter, from the air
Just like it sounds. It compresses air against a chiller coil. Trace the curve to get to the liquid state.
What did you use to heat the baking rack to off gas ahead of time?
Just simple rooting mats w/temp controllers… similar to these: https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwikm5i5g4v3AhWfgFAGHXWeC-cYABANGgJkZw&ae=2&sig=AOD64_0ecx36gc3kHnOsscMR0vt1Ozv0qA&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwijhpG5g4v3AhVSecAKHZ9GBgoQwg96BAgBEAs&dct=1&adurl=
Duct taped all the wiring on the baxk with enough play so each baking sheet could be pulled out of the rack enough to put our boats(not sure what other people call their twisted parchment receptacles) on easily…
Then just taped rhe duct tape edges down. Also taped off the temp controllers seams and wire connection points.
These steps were prob overkill… but better safe than sorry.
Last… we had a surge protector for all the plugs attached to the top of the rack(butane heavier rhan air etc etc)with one of theplastic rack covers cut in a way that any vapor would have had to travel outside the rack and up and over the plastic to contact the surge protector
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Beautiful. Thanks for sharing. This is the stuff dreams are made of for me. I consider myself an extremely young person in this field and am grateful for the OG’s like you who came long before us helping pave the way, and sharing your knowledge at the same time. During a time period where this stuff was, and still is looked at as the same level as Meth Labs depending on your county- people just don’t fucking get it. Having the few relationships I was able to forge prior to this site are ones I hold dear to me. Meeting people who really lived that life always had the realest tips. It’s people like you who are the true shoulders that the younger generation such as myself get to stand on. I am excited to see more from your brand pop up in the future, I will definitely be following.
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Once i’m done crying… i’ll respond.
jk.
but thanks man. that was nice. I’m about 40 now. and I remember always thinking that the dudes I copped off in my early 20’s, that were in their 30’s already… had it so good. Owned land. started growing when weed was 3500 a pound in Cali. Easily migrated into licensed ventures with time.
Compared to them, I started at a disadvantage. The generations younger than me… are starting at a similar disadvantage. I’m gonna dm you. Those older cats took me under their wing and I already have a couple young guns that I try and reciprocate with. thinking of you @Kaieul… hmu via dm with any questions that will help minimize that disadvantage.
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Really is starting from a disadvantage now compared to back in those days. Glad i was there to see the beginning of the whole extraction industry and where it is now compared how sneaky and hush hush it was with the massive off grid set ups like that.
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The sneaky hush hush days were fine and dandy when price points were good(if you were capitalized well enough to do a proper build)
What fucked the B(arn)HO game was when all the west coast licensed spots were backdooring everything. Tough to compete when you’re driving hours for trim, media, solvent, diesel, ans dry Ice with a shop who is getting all that shit delivered to their loading dock. While most likely paying your dudes driving at least $30 an hour.
Pror to buying a second solvent tank to always recover into an empty vessel/buying an on site nitrogen generator… we were a.)always paranoid and b.) Using 10-12 T tanks(300 cu ft) nitrogen bottles daily. Since thar was absurd… we set uo accounts with prax. Airgas…And a couple less corporate shops. But sometimes had to drive a couple hours min. each way. Evrn when rotating between prax locations we tried to mix it up as to draw less suspicion.(truth is nobdoy gave a fuck…especially once they knew a tip was coming) and we tipped the shit out of everyone relevant… especially since it was way too much nitro to be driven without the right placards and license type… and all that was costly.
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Oh im talking well before legalization, it was very very hard to do some of the things that were done and at that scale alot don’t understand what it took other than a pair of brass ones to pull it off
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Oh for sure. Thr catch being that’s why it was so lucrative. We had a white 2500 with a 5th wheel 20ish foot landscape trailer both with logos matching s website and burner phone for trim pick ups. I stumbled into an epic group of older ladies. Hippies in their day, but not spun out in their later years. They handled all the driving for trim and sales to LA. Made about a grand a day driving… but didn’t try and grt $10 per pound of trim or $x per pound of oil. (Even paying $5 a p on trim when sourcing 2k pounds was insane for drivers. And we did that shit for a long time) and were sober. Without criminal records
In the last ~25 years… and loved to start their day at 5am.
I decked that trailer out like an indoor grow. In the shelf above the 5th wheel hitch I enclosed a Honda 3000si (or whatever the red, quiet generators were called) and routed the exhaust out the roof. Installed an 8" duct fan routed through one of the old school heavy as fuck 4’ tall charcoal filters from a grow I once had. The fan created negative pressure… and only blew out clean smelling air through a separate roof vent. Just so there was never an chance that trailer was emitting shitlosds of weed odor at the gas station or stuck in traffic on the highway.
Also had some nice hooks to hang a fish scale from right st thr entrance. Clipboard on the wall with a pen roped to it… for tracking exactly what came in…AND OUT… because that double checking was key.
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For sure man. Not gonna lie. It was cathartic to put it out there to a decent(on here… decent is the best you can hope for) reception.
As I play it through I keep coming up with other shit we did that was, at the time, cutting edge.
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Wasn’t that the most beautiful catch-22 in setting-us-up-for-failure legal bullshit back when it was legal to possess, sell and buy concentrates yet no legal way to manufacture them?!
Officer: “Sir, where is this distillate from? You didn’t manufacture this did you?”
Wook: “Uhm I bought it.”
Officer:
(holding your 5L receiving flask full of 2nd pass up to the light)
“And it comes packaged like this in a thick as fuck 5000ml round glass ball with a large opening in 1 protruding spot?”
Wook: “Yessir, and that spd in the garage is for something complete unrelated, on god officer”