Variance in d8 lab results: An analytical review

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Simply melt it a 60c. Then it is much easier to sample.

So go and move my sampling scale right next to the oven and change all my sampling workflow? Yes that is what I came up with too… Just sucked and not going to do it with my good calibrated scale, used the shitty myweight w/ no shield… so another layer of variance and really the texture is still awful for sampling. Still get streamers that love to go everywhere but in the tubes. Still janky to sample compared to any other concentrate I have come across.

We are accredited, we have good workflows, we get <5% RPD between sample dupes on flower and less on concentrates. But this D8 glass/molasses is not what labs are used to dealing with and personally I dont give a shit about the absolute variance… thats life. I care about labs honestly reporting D8 vs D9 and hopefully pointing out the fact there are >1% isomer byproducts in this.

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What we do at SRI is to tear off a postage size square of paper towel and tare that on the balance.
Then we use a popsicle stick to smear a little concentrate on the paper towel. Warming the concentrate helps.
Re-weigh it and put the paper towel with the smear of concentrate in the extraction vial. The paper towel does not appear to affect the analysis, but you can verify this by just extracting the paper towel.
Hugh
SRI

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I asked Kaycha in Knoxville if they can send chromatographs with the COA

This was the response…

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Well that’s pretty suspect.

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Ya think??

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Yikes…
Almost as if…
They don’t want you to see them…

But they’re yours?..

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I’m about to make websites for all these shady fucking labs

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You’re paying for the data. The chromatograms belong to you.

Keep asking your labs to provide chromatograms.

We include them on every COA.

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:facepunch::facepunch::facepunch::facepunch::facepunch:
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Kaycha is an absolute joke. They are still using Evio SOPs from after they split with them. If you have an Evio COA and Kaycha COA, compare the SOP numbers for their methods. Unless they recently changed, they are the same. Not sure how you are developing and improving your science if you are using SOPs for methods you didn’t develop.
Maybe even worse, they are trying to pass off Emerald Badges with Evio on them as their own on their website:

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What happened to Evio? When we entered the market they were still around and “powered by Shimadzu.”

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They are still around. I don’t know the whole story but I think they had a Florida location and the owners (maybe operators) of that location decided to split from Evio and start Kaycha.

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I believe that was the reason (among others) Universal Diagnostic Labs (formally Kaycha Kentucky) split from Kaycha, from what I have heard through the grapevine. I could be wrong. I have had samples tested at both Universal Diagnostics Kentucky and KCA for d8 and they match perfectly while Kaycha TN said it was ND and wouldn’t send me chromatograms either.

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Yes, I’ve spoken with David Greene and early on we both agreed the d9 to be present.

At KCA we have tested a few truly compliant d8 samples and achieve baseline resolution between d8 and d9.

I’m not sure how people can trust labs that continue to call non-detect. Their brands are tied to misidentifying peaks and not being able to resolve coelution.

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Follow the money. They all want the gravy train to continue

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I’ve accepted I won’t get it compliant and it’s not worth the money to fiqure it out when prices are in the gutter. Who’s gunna pay more for compliant when then can just send it to kaycha or ACS ?

Only doing limited formulated products that test compliant

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:roll_eyes:

:joy::joy::rofl::joy::rofl:

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It’s more valuable as feed stock them spending money to remediate

Don’t think it’s worth the risk to continue going after compliant D8 don’t twist my words around

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