The Cannabis Industry needs a wake up call, and the "Vape Crisis" may just be it

We are currently going through this in Washington, and I couldn’t agree more. Jay Inslee just banned all flavored vapor products, cannabis or nicotine, and defined “flavors” as anything not derived directly and solely from cannabis/tobacco. What is the reaction of the largest Producer/Processor and Retailer run advocacy group in WA? They push as hard as they can to change the definition so they can keep selling their cut cartridges with who knows what in them. I’m not saying that fruit flavorings/botanically derived terpenes are necessarily bad, but we just don’t know enough about them yet to allow people to use them in the fashion that they have been. Especially since we DO know that if you mix too many terps into things it can have a caustic/burning effect on your throat and lungs. People in this industry (legal and illegal) have already demonstrated that they don’t mind cutting corners if it means saving a few bucks so why would we trust them to use responsible amounts of these unknown compounds?

It’s sad, this is a great opportunity for states with legal cannabis to set a sterling example of how to do things properly, how to create the highest quality and purity cannabis products they can. I feel like this would go a long way to demonstrating how legalization does elevate the medium and raise the standards, creating safer and better products for all. But everyone is just throwing a hissy fit cause they can’t buy their 55 gallon barrels of “gelato” any more and they built their entire business model around using these untested compounds.

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I remember this one. Was there another case linked to a dispensary somewhere?

@WolfeXtracts ehh i see what youre saying but people are gonna be looking for the best deal, no matter the regulatory situation.

I could’ve been confused but I thought it was the two in Oregon were found bought from olcc regulated shops

That’s fair.


I was correct

Five people from legal shops in OR so far, two people died.

https://www.kezi.com/content/news/8-vaping-lung-illness-cases-reported-in-Oregon-561907801.html

State health officials say three additional cases of severe lung illnesses linked to vaping have been reported, bringing the total to eight.

The Oregon Health Authority said last week that two Oregon victims had died. That escalation prompted the state, lawmakers and Gov. Kate Brown to launch a barrage of anti-vaping messaging, including calls for action.

The Oregonian/OregonLive reports the five victims Oregon officials reported last week all shopped at legal retail marijuana stores. A health authority spokesman did not say if the three new cases did, too.

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Five people total from OR shoped at legal shops. 8 total cases so far in OR.

5 omg and my silly ass is smoking my own, but I would be hurt if I was doing something wrong. Everyone around me would be hurt. Like what the fuck is going on? Maybe I have imposter syndrome. Doubt it. Maybe a different kind of syndrome lol maybe because mine are cbd any negative reaction is immediately cured by the cbd and we just can’t legally say that… lol

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In case you haven’t seen this yet. I’m updating once I have time later today or tomorrow:

300+ I’ve made. Zero issues. I smoke/vape whatbi make and grow.

Elcheapo plastic wick carts
Then upgraded to
Ccell knockoffs
Then upgraded to
Ascents new ceramics

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Appreciate the link. 5 sick and 2 dead is plenty IMO to consider it a serious problem in legal cannabis as well.

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Cusp of legalization.

you do realize a lot of these “black market carts” are actually coming from “legal” producers right? legal producers oil fails for pesticides, mycotoxins, heavy metals etc but they cant bear to destroy it and take a loss so they destroy a jar of honey on camera and take home the jar of distillate that failed lab testing to be made into black market carts lol. this shit has been happening for years here in wa state

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I guess you hang around a lot more crooked extractors than I do. I literally don’t know a single peer, throughout the entire US using anything that would knowingly hurt someone in a Vape cart. Blackmarket or otherwise. Clearly theyre out there, but no where near my circle :man_shrugging:

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IMO anyone pushing pesticides, or additives that can kill or permanently injure a person, are no better than your local heroin dealer. Hopefully light being shined on them will at least push them further into the nooks and crannies.

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These threads have becone dj khalid. “Another one” is what it should be titled.

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You see lots of fucked up things as a consultant in . the industry if you pay attention. heres a great example of what i am talking about California vape maker Kushy Punch caught making illegal products | Leafly

That’s the exact reason I created the catch-all thread in the hopes people would post in it to reduce forum noise. Not that this thread is noise, but the number of threads on this topic can be.

@drjackhughes you called it sir👆
Microscopes and Machines… before this vapocalypse started…
Said something about how 2020 would be all about the cannabis derived Terps