That is genius and sadly not available in all school districts as it should
I like how they split the kids in the us at like 14-16 and some go uni track and some go trades track and both get great training while still in public school
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It’s not here either. We have to drive our kid 30 mins away for this public school program.
Means getting up at 5am everyday and sacrificing to make sure my kid has the best public school education he can get.
It’s really paying off though. He just has to complete this program with any gpa and he gets a full ride to any state school. He has something like a 5.3gpa though as it’s outta 6.0 cause of the full college courses.
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Good Dad
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I do a lot less for a lot more
My lead makes close to that doing floor coating work. He’s been doing it 6 years. 22 years old.
That’s the thing is these kids need to be advised to treat that debt just like any other significant debt ie don’t go into debt unless that debt investment can reasonably be paid off.
I went into almost 200k in debt to go to a private college. Key difference was that it is a top ranked school in its field and my major (Chemical Engineering) had starting salaries that could comfortably cover said student loan payments. Even then I had resentment toward going into so much debt with no outside advise until I matured enough to realize it was worth it.
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Like I said, that shoe fit your real snug you piece if shit. Kiss my ass.
You pay your guys less than I do and I’m the asshole lol
Math is really hard but let me explain it this way:
If rent and cost of living in your area is 2-3x what it is in mine and you don’t pay that multiplier more than what I do, you pay your guys less
How’s that shoe fitting ?
In a ton of ways school debt is the worst debt because it can’t be discharged in a bankruptcy not only that the state can dock your pay if you default on student loans. It’s really the worst type of debt a person can get into second to only the IRS which can be reduced with the use of a good lawyer.
I could have gone to several top 10 grad schools. My gmat score pretty much got me into any school I applied for. I couldn’t accept being over 1/4m in debt even with a starting salary at the time around 100k. It didn’t make sense to me.
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To add to that, any stem master’s will be paid for in full, plus you get paid hourly, if you are a research and/or teaching assistant.
The only reason to pay for a grad degree is if you’re already making more working than you’ll spend.
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Or a foreign rich student who pays full price for everything. Including the bmws and Porsche cars most of them drive.
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Lmao hahaha
The school I got my masters only allowed you to be a t.a. With a master degree.
But there are a million ways to go to college for free or very little. Most people want to go to a few popular universities while there are plenty of division 1 choices for cheap
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Another super intelligent response from you
Go argue in the mirror. It will be far more productive for you.
I went to a state school. It was the cheapest in my state. It still cost me 50k. And I had pell grants. And I had scholarships. And i started 20 years ago, instead of today.
I encouraged my kid NOT TO GO to college. Didn’t seem like it would help him at all with his career goals and would have saddled us both with more debt that no one needs.
I thought about going to grad school. They were paying 18k a year, you had to work more than full time, and you also got your degree. It worked out to substantially less than minimum wage all in. 
so instead I took the courses, didn’t worry about the PhD and moved right along.
Half the people I work with now that have a masters don’t seem to know how to do anything. Most of the people I work with that have a PhD really don’t seem to know how to do anything. I figure that cause they were good at being in school but haven’t actually done much yet. And that they will learn how to do more. They certainly want to make money like they know how to do stuff though. 
I’m all for paying living wages and sharing the wealth. And if I could swing it cooperatives where the workers buy in and share the wealth. Sadly, that is 100% not where the cannabis industry is at all. And the capital needs are stupid, for no reason.
I tried with one coop in CO and it was closed down (cause you know, they changed the rules and we were too small to keep up). And since then its just been trying to support family businesses around country. Making my consultant rate as low as possible so its reasonable for anyone (at least that’s what people keep telling me…) and giving out as much free info as I can along the way.
Occasionally I worry about making ends meet and then I go out and hustle outside of the industry. I figure most people are doing this. And I figure that even those of us who have been business owners in the past, present, or want to be in the future - look things like the cost of labor in very different ways than people who have never considered this as an option.
I remember the first time I was told to lay people off - and I instead choose to give up my job so my team could stay on board. Two of them are still there, to this day! It was fucking hard. I’m not sure I would make the same decision again. I had more assets at the time than my team - and I survived, but I lost land and savings and had to ask for help from food banks and the like. If I had little kids it would have been impossible. I have a hard time imagining business owners making similar decisions.
And I’m constantly surprised when people are surprised that a little more than half of cannabis businesses fail - which is basically the same as all businesses. Not everyone will be successful - even if they pay good wages, even if they don’t. There are so many other factors out there that modify the risk to moving forward with businesses.
But here we are - still doing it. Still trying to give consumers the best product at a great price. Still trying to make sure our team is compensated fairly. All while competing with thousands of other companies doing that same thing.
-shrug- We all make mistakes and sometimes people don’t like us very much when are the owners/bosses. But going into it with the intent of lifting up your team, with giving a fair shake to consumers, and acknowledging that its not a gravy train is the best we can do. And honestly, more than half the people I talk to do not acknowledge that this isn’t a gravy train. People think this is a cash cow or something - its not.
The worst place is when team mates think you are shorting them - and you are barely keeping the lights on. I’m sure there are people out there that are dicking people over… I mean there are always bad apples. But is that most people? No way. Most people are doing their best to be fair - cause we naturally want to be fair. (there is some pretty awesome studies about fairness in primates are close species, if you want to see what I mean from a biological perspective. )
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What I’ve learned is college is a scam usually.
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I did the same evaluation as you, but then the economy happened. Lol.
Yeah, but those also take 40-60 hours per week solid to perform.
What if you have kids?
My student debt was from childcare for 2 kids during a doctorate.
Then don’t have kids
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The thing about a doctorate in science… it’s really focused. Unless you end up doing exactly what you studied, it may not even be worth your while.
Those of us who have learned to ‘learn the tools’ and apply them agnostically to whatever field you’re in tend to have an easier time getting along.
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