I gotta get $100 a g for my reclaim. $125 for my bowl resin cause it’s solvent less
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What’s the patent number?
You guys are fucking hilarious.
Miyabe is a really smart lady, and she is really a great “cannabis personality”. She is really about helping. Buncha haters. She’s converting in the most natural way. Why don’t you guys bark up the chemical conversion tree? She is also probably far more educated than @Kingofthekush420 lol dehydrogenation is an important part of alcohol dehydration in the lab, and using dehydration is symantics.
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For real - there are at least two phDs that studied cannabis and the endocannabiniod system more in depth than most people on this planet, whom have worked on this product
I have not tried all of their products but in theory it is super interesting and makes the most sense for those of us that enjoy the effects of smoking cannabis more than eating cannabis
When we eat THC, our digestion changes it to another molecule which feels very different than smoking does for most
When we smoke cannabis, molecules are broken down and created in the heat/combustion and this is what their process is capturing and what their products contain
Way to go Profound naturals 
I’m excited to learn more about these molecules now that the patent is out
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I’m not opposed to it in theory, but I would rather not inhale random combustion byproducts just because some people report they are effected differently.
I’m not talking about 11-hydroxy versus d9 either. I’m talking about d9 vaped (actual d9) versus whatever ‘new cannabinoids’ they claim are created by combusting d9. I’m certainly not paying a premium price for it without being convinced beforehand there is a dramatic difference.
Sure, there could be effective pro-drugs present in the flower that need combustion to activate/create, but what I’m doing is working just fine for me as is without it.
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Anyone here bitching about an exo-thermic reaction, pretty much just oxidation/(dehydrogenation) better be bitching as hard about thc-o etc. Lots of fuckery going on in here. Fuck is wrong with you guys. Lots of misplaced hate. Profound Naturals is not the enemy. Pffft. Buncha hypos.
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Combustion isn’t just “an exothermic reaction”. It’s like making a conversion with crude and catalyst and not bothering with the cleanup… you’re reacting everything present uncontrollably and then collecting it all.
Selectivity is not a prerequisite for a reaction. Just because you couldn’t appropriately clean up the reaction post process dosent mean they can’t. I’m unsure how many conversions you’ve done or participated in, but side reactions happen ALL THE TIME. This industry is plagued with hotdog water. I think I trust the PHD from an ivy(not saying that’s EVERYTHING) a little more than you jamokes
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just not seeing where looking for something magic in the smoke to explain the difference between inhaled vs ingested makes any sense when we have solid data on what the liver does to ingested cannabinoids.
pyrolyized CBD isolate.
created 78 “known cannabinoids/isomers…some of which might be inactive”.
there may well be useful stuff there, but “here, try all 78 at once and see what happens” doesn’t strike me as good science.
isolate them and try one at a time? sure.
some of them may be inactive (we don’t know), also implies: “we don’t know that none of them are toxic”.
does “vaping” make the all 78? or even 1/2 of them? dunno. worth exploring before deciding “must be because they set it on fire!” is the defining difference.
“Hey look, during pyrolysis we get a cannabinoid that the liver can’t alter” would indeed be news…once you could actually point at that cannabinoid rather than a swarm of new peaks on your chromatogram. synthesizing that cannabinoid as a soup using fire and claiming “we got this!” seems premature.
edit: I will give you that actually setting flower on fire does have a qualitatively different effect that vaporizing concentrate. actual data on the quantitative differences (which they don’t mention having) between those two might be informative.
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I know it’s not this, but it’s a pretty funny idea to be like “can we patent cannabis smoke?”.
I’m going to patent protein shake farts and take some lawyers to gyms around town.
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That fact that you posed so many questions, makes me more interested in her work than hydrogenating cannabinoids when that NEVER happens naturally.
The liver and high heat actually do a lot of the same TYPE of work. Our body metabolise and oxidizes things just like a reaction. Finding out more information on the phyto cannabinoids, produced by smoke, so that we may INGEST them without pyrolization/carbon/smoke is great.
In my opinion it is good work, and you can’t hate someone for trying to protect their IP.
Sometimes some of the best ideas, are born from the most simple principles.
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right up until “here, eat this…”
I can. I usually don’t. given how much is about whose shoulders you’re standing on, and who you interacted with while thinking about it, “my idea!” is not a trivial sell imo.
if they have ID’d the single magical component, and have isolated it, and are merely obfuscating with the “78 new peaks”, then sure. if they’ve got no clue yet, and are simply making magic soup, then the product is premature
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“78 new products” 
bust out the crisco it’s a party.
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The answer is no… aerosols generated by vaping do not have these compounds, at least not when lower temps are used.
“The GC/MS analysis showed that the gas phase of the vapor consisted overwhelmingly of cannabinoids, with trace amounts of three other compounds. In contrast, over 111 compounds were identified in the combusted smoke, including several known PAHs.”
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They not be “phyto” unless they are found in the plant.
I also heard “natural cannabinoids” in there somewhere. Which throws a huge red flag for me.
I only recognize two kinds of folks who (absolutely) equate “natural” with “good for you”, idiots and liars.
By all accounts, “nature” is gearing up to take us out for setting shit on fire in those infernal combustion engines and not considering the smoke.
Gonna have to back pedal just a little on this one. 
“Here, eat this” really has been a primary tool in our exploration of our condition….
Really could not know sooo much of what we know if some motherfucker didn’t “eat that shit and be sure…”
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I mean, that’s how we eventually figured out which mushrooms were totally nebular and which ones killed you….
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All mushrooms are edible, some only once
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Off topic, but my favorite “fuck around and find out” guinea pig was Col. John Paul Stapp. He decided to put his body on the line to test G forces and pilot safety equipment in a rocket sled over and over and over again in the 1950s.
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So smart she said cbn is made by dehydration lol idgaf about a PhD especially when they can’t even use the correct term to describe how a cannabinoid is made. And then on top of it trying to teach the wrong thing to people. That’s even more hilarious coming from a PhD
Symantics?
I think not
One is removing water the other is removing hydrogen big difference especially when you actually know wtf you’re talking about
I find it funny you make comments like the first quote above then wanna blame symantics, how is it that someone as dumb as me knows the difference but a PhD doesn’t 
I have a PhD anyways
Pot Head Degree
Hands on > a fucking certificate any day
Atleast I know the difference between dehydrogenation and dehydration
