Is this a tendency with all hemp?
When you look at all the hemp currently being produced there is certainly a lack of quality material in relation to junk. But even with quality material shatter is not a normal outcome. Ive had plenty of success in pull and snap consistency and even some success with sauce. Compliance quickly becomes the big challenge. Lots of hemp strains are barely compliant when grown in a field let alone when done as quality indoor buds; compound that with concentration and youre looking at 5% total thc easy.
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I was using indoor grown flower or trim. Flower routinely tested around 20% CBD.
Patient fave was blended with Blue Dream flower before extraction. Or maybe, just like me, they injoyed how CBDBD rolled off the tongue 
That I could get “closer” to a shatter.
I actually think it’s a specific terpene, closely linked (genetically) to the high producing CBD allele as it came in from hemp. Tastes like artificial cherry to me.
Not all hemp will have that linkage, but a large number of the “high CBD” lines I’ve dabed have exhibit this phene.
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I have found that lifter will make a pull and snap. The slab has to stay in the oven way longer than normal. Only wash with a max of 5 lbs of tane to 1 lb of material. Do a quick wash nor super cold. No CRC. I find if you use freshly dried material you can keep the thca number high and the thc delta9 number low.
I only go by delta 9 if it is below .3 delta 9 it’s good for me. Regardless of what the thca is.
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It’s been only a month or two since I thought the same thing that all cbd has that cherry taste. I thought it was a high bp terp that was always coexisting with CBD. Then you, @cyclopath told me they have bred that taste out of hemp.
Now, I’m on a hemp farm and you could only find a few phenos with that cherry taste. I just finished a phenomenal pheno hunt last night got some real winners coming. My favorites were the Bubba kush pheno that smells just like some pre 98 Bubba and the cookies and cream which smells just like the popular cookies and cream strain by exotic genetics.
Making cbd shatter is challenging but there’s no reason you can’t do it if you decarb and re dissolve.
Can’t wait to prove it to you guys. Hopefully I can convince new boss man to buy old boss man’s bho rig soon
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yes there is. you just decarbed!
you want CBDA for shatter…
least that’s what folks using hydrocarbons are aiming at.
given that CBD also crystallizes, I’m forced to admit that I have no idea about the “slabbability” of CBD vs CBDA
edit: 
yes I do…Anyone make CBD Terpsolate/ Shatter?
thanks for reminding me how great this stuff is at defeating recall.
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Lol I just changed the thread name to that. Sorry OP
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It’s always been my assumption that CBDA was what was desired for slabs. CBD would sugar up on ya or turn to a wax maybe? Anyway, slabs dont want crystal formation…
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I’d disagree. you get to keep the 1/2 that you didn’t add back.
with “shatter” made in a vac oven you just run those extra terps through your vac pump to atmosphere…
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I’m reading about making hard candy it sounds like we need zero water content, small amount of impurity (fats or other cannabinoids) to inhibit crystallization and finally a very warm solution prior to pouring the slab.
Am I missing anything? Gosh I hate making shatter. @norcal is pretty savvy with the heat gun tek
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not so much “bred out”, although that works as a description.
I prefer “broken linkage” so they no longer both end up in the same plant.
when you perform a cross, you get “random assortment” of characteristics from mom & dad. except when the characteristics are close together on the same chromosome. in which case they will show a biased inheritance pattern
below shows the difference between linked & unlinked. linked means that most of the time there are no recombination events (whole reason for the existence of sex) that will separate the two. so if mom was CBD & cherry, so go her CBD seeds.
https://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/pigeons/geneticlinkage/
“breaking linkage” doesn’t mean moving the gene to a different chromosome, genes don’t move around like that (they do, but that’s another story).
It means swapping the allele mom had for the allele dad had (see homologous recombination)
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Anyone ever thought to do this except also add a hot slab to dilute the THC content with Thc-free isolate?
“Isolate” should have very little THC in it to begin with…so one should be leery of those offering “T-free isolate”.
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selling point to noobs…
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the easy way to compliance 
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We do a CBD terpsolate product, we use botanical terps and isolate. We use botanical terps for those vs. hemp derived for our “shatter/slab” just to guarantee that the isolate variant is 100% T-Free. I’ve had some hemp terps actually have a pretty good amount of residual THC in them.
We package them in little inserts to dose them out easier.
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Slick packaging! Good reasonable dosage too. Looks super handy for travel, or for making mix packs of different terp profiles.
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Yeah they’re really good for on the go! They work well with the hunibadger and other dip devices. People seem to mix them with their regular THC dabs.
The one thing I don’t like about the packaging is the amount of plastic. I’m hoping we can make version 2 more green and still childproof.
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I have observed the cherry pheno in many of the certified dioecious varietys of EU list…
I was allways under the impression that terpenes do travel with a specific chemotype and morphological characteristic…
In a field of thousands of different plants the stogy broadleafed one and paired with the myrcene smell allways indicated a higher thc count compared to a sweeter and more loosely packed light green flower. The difference was 10-20x in thc… Also sound a Nycdiesel but it was as rare as the cherry…
There is a paper that describes somw really cool morfochemo relations…
So a GCms and a skilled botanist could help dispose of marker assisted selection for at least the less ecobomicaly blessd. 
If I find this phenotype on the field ill d3finetly put it on a GC for if its lost due to genetic errosion we might still have a chance of conserving it for future breeding purposes…
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Citation?